I understand this argument but it also doesn't place any incentive on the less shitty option to do better.
People voted for the alternative once before and very recently too. It’s not like either party is engaging the young vote in any meaningful way. The “well at least he’s not trump” argument is some shallow bs and everyone knows it.
We kept saying “we risk losing abortion rights” too.
Absolutely, and yet it's still in peril. I'm just saying that Trump's dumbass needs to be taken seriously, and Biden isn't doing much to win over the youth.
I think the point most non-youth are making is that when the choice is between being kicked in a sensitive nether region and literal fascism, the only answer is to request a second kick. I would love for the democrats to be more progressive, but there are bigger worries and frankly, whomever the Dems put forward MUST win the presidency. Your feelings literally do not matter.
This ignores the fact that the country is to the left of Democratic leadership, by far, on issues polling. Sure, if our choice was between right-wing neoliberal Democrats and fascist Republicans, it wouldn't be a contest. And in the general elections, that's usually about what we get. But these arguments are used, disingenuously, to convince primary voters to support right-wing Democrats, who actually do worse against fascist Republicans, by far. It's a losing strategy, and it's designed to be a losing strategy, because right-wing capitalist Democrats are more interested in suppressing their own party's left wing, than in fighting the country's radical right. They're more motivated by maintaining power than by preventing the collapse of American democracy. We have to vote for the best viable candidate in the general election, even if that candidate is a capitalist extremist Democrat, but we should be doing everything we can to remove them in the primaries, not just in spite of the general election stakes, but because of the general election stakes.
EDITED: Changed "issues voting" to "issues polling"
This ignores the fact that the country is to the left of Democratic leadership, by far, on issues polling.
Weird that people consistently don't vote for these things in their districts then.
National polling doesn't mean much except in the race for the Presidency. I assure you that WV voters like Joe Manchin a shitload more than they like Bernie Sanders.
You don't have to like that (I certainly don't) but it is very true.
I’m sure they will love the alternative..
I understand this argument but it also doesn't place any incentive on the less shitty option to do better.
People voted for the alternative once before and very recently too. It’s not like either party is engaging the young vote in any meaningful way. The “well at least he’s not trump” argument is some shallow bs and everyone knows it.
We kept saying “we risk losing abortion rights” too.
Absolutely, and yet it's still in peril. I'm just saying that Trump's dumbass needs to be taken seriously, and Biden isn't doing much to win over the youth.
I think the point most non-youth are making is that when the choice is between being kicked in a sensitive nether region and literal fascism, the only answer is to request a second kick. I would love for the democrats to be more progressive, but there are bigger worries and frankly, whomever the Dems put forward MUST win the presidency. Your feelings literally do not matter.
This ignores the fact that the country is to the left of Democratic leadership, by far, on issues polling. Sure, if our choice was between right-wing neoliberal Democrats and fascist Republicans, it wouldn't be a contest. And in the general elections, that's usually about what we get. But these arguments are used, disingenuously, to convince primary voters to support right-wing Democrats, who actually do worse against fascist Republicans, by far. It's a losing strategy, and it's designed to be a losing strategy, because right-wing capitalist Democrats are more interested in suppressing their own party's left wing, than in fighting the country's radical right. They're more motivated by maintaining power than by preventing the collapse of American democracy. We have to vote for the best viable candidate in the general election, even if that candidate is a capitalist extremist Democrat, but we should be doing everything we can to remove them in the primaries, not just in spite of the general election stakes, but because of the general election stakes.
EDITED: Changed "issues voting" to "issues polling"
Weird that people consistently don't vote for these things in their districts then.
National polling doesn't mean much except in the race for the Presidency. I assure you that WV voters like Joe Manchin a shitload more than they like Bernie Sanders.
You don't have to like that (I certainly don't) but it is very true.