Biden says that 'if Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running'

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Biden says that 'if Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running'
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We see the system for what it is, so I'll vote for the slightly less terrible party in the short term and also do the things necessary to change it in the long term.

Good luck with your attempts at incremental change, that've been going on for a century while our society has completely devolved into fascism, a bipartisan police state and a genocidal global empire. You are clearly the brilliant visionary we need to guide us into the uncharted future.

Yeah... things haven't changed much in the last 100 years...what with Prohibition, women's sufferage, a 75-day school year and Jim Crow.

Prohibition? We still have drug prohibition. Woman's suffrage? It's something, but women's votes still are as useless as everyone else's, especially if you refuse to vote for anything to actually change (and they still have a wage gap). 75-day school year - what? Jim Crow? Improvements but black communities institutionalized, ghettoized, gunned down by cops, and still a wage gap. See prohibition.

Plus, now our government is totalitarian, eating a third of GDP, massive surveillance state, largest military on earth, quarter of the prisoner's on Earth, constantly trying to censor the internet, economy is insanely unequal and getting worse, inflation over the long term getting worse and wages not keeping up with them, housing prices skyrocketing, and currently openly engaged in a genocide despite nation-wide protests. Need me to keep going?

You are so insightful, offering how what little incremental changes we're doing aren't enough. Your powers of observation are impressive and really contributing every time you bring it up.

So tell me, what is your feasible solution that will help in the short and/or long term? Or are you taking the position that the ship is unsalvageable, and we just have to go down with it? Because your vocal contributions aren't helping with those making an effort to bale water out.

Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was still going.

What is my feasible solution? General strike and/or total shift to third party to implement direct democracy. 100 million people can go out and waste their vote on a petty tyrant like Biden or Trump, or 100 million people can actually start making real changes. You're all in a prison of your own making.

That's not feasible. You start that up, the Republicans win and you lose anything you've gained plus more. You keep going and the Republicans keep winning, and the more they're able to solidify their power until we're living in a literal Christo-fascist nation.

That's a great plan if, and only if, that is your ultimate goal.

Of course it's feasible. Biden literally cannot win, it's in fact the only option if you don't want to see GOP in power again.

Thanks for your best wishes! I'm lucky enough that the hour it takes a year to vote doesn't get in the way of the direct action I participate in the rest of the year.

Mutual aid isn't mutually exclusive with voting.