Pluralistic: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

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The ability to change features, prices, and availability of things you've already paid for is a powerful temptation to corporations.

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What does that even mean?

Ownership is compromised a bundle of rights. If it's your bundle, you can split them up however you want, sell whatever kind of limited or unlimited licenses that can come up with, and this applies to real, personal, and intellectual property.

If it's not theft, why does the greed and unfair practices of the industry matter? Why does there need to be any justification or excuse?

Should definitely have a right to repai; with any other property right you generally have a duty to maintain the access to your interest. I recently unlocked a bunch of premium features in my car. HD radio, comfort window roll down (rolls down 2" with a tap") auto tailgate close (had auto open, but not close, had to hit a button on the lid to close), auto side mirror tilt down in reverse, roll down windows from keyless entry, close tailgate from keyless entry.

If I understand the interface at all, it's pretty openly accessible (if you have the right OBDii port adapter and software, which ironically you need to buy a license for). Code looked fairly straightforward, and by that I mean it looked like other computer code I've seen. Wonder what the original price was for those extras were from the dealership, probably over 10k.

I recently unlocked a bunch of premium features in my car. HD radio, comfort window roll down (rolls down 2" with a tap") auto tailgate close (had auto open, but not close, had to hit a button on the lid to close), auto side mirror tilt down in reverse, roll down windows from keyless entry, close tailgate from keyless entry.

Those "features" are all so pointless they're bordering on absurd.

Thanks for reaffirming my bias that new cars suck.

Thanks for reaffirming my bias that new cars suck.

I am really concerned the next car I need to buy, which is probably 20 years off, is going to be this trend cranked to 11. With software and hardware I can find alternatives and hack my way around the "you paid for it, but we own it and can do whatever we want to it" mentality that tech companies push, but cars seem like a whole different world when it comes to the "you paid for it, but we own it" mentality.

Yes, like everyone today, they don't want to get your money once. They want reoccurring revenue and to farm and sell all of your data.

It's shite like that is the reason why I'm planning on staying in the south, so I can just daily my 56 bel air. All it really needs is a AC and I can always just take the heater out and take a normal ac unit apart and put it in. At this rate I'm wondering if that car is going to be more practical than modern cars purely because you don't have to pay to open the window. Sure it may not have the speed as modern car but like even in my z3 I rarely ever go faster than 60mph.

I probably pay less for fuel and subscribed features in my electric car than you do for fuel in your '56 bel air. I definitely pay less for maintenance

Window opening, seat heating, auto tilting wing mirrors are all standard. My subscription covers games, streaming video, always connected internet, self driving features - so I get all the features of yours and more for the base price and just luxuries on subscription

Not all new cars are bad

Car subscription features 😭😭😭 are people really genuinely ok with this?

The ones I want, yes for me, no for others. That's one of the things I like about the company I bought from, the base model is fine, extras are available that are a genuine ongoing cost (like streaming audio and games) so a subscription is reasonable

Why in the name of fuck do you need games in your car? Jfc

Charging on road trips. It takes half an hour and often it's best to stay with the car

Don't you have a phone to play games on?

If it’s not theft, why does the greed and unfair practices of the industry matter?

Because it tears at the fabric of Humanity. It's a 'death by a thousand cuts'.

Humanity constantly needing to be on guard and pushing back against being taken advantage of by people who want to charge them multiple times for the same thing in different ways, especially the ones that used to be free, over and over again.

Fighting that is pushing back against unfairness, which is one of the root beliefs of Humanity.