Why is he saying he would like to see a federated approach?
With federation there is no monetization, no centralized analytics, no centralized control over content. All things meta strives for
What I read before is that the plan was for facebook to introduce cheap instance hosting at the expense of making it a "franchise" they can control, monetize, monitor...somewhere between a self-hosted instance and a reddit sub.
So basically the worst from reddit (controlled, monetized, monitored) and the worst of lemmy (server instance handling and costs) lmao
Good luck with that
Additionally: While spez’s reasoning isn’t sound on the matter, it IS true, that user generated content is highly valuable to AI firms. With ChatGPT out the door, we shouldn’t expect anything to be written after a date a few years back to be written by a human. But this means these data sources aren’t “clear” from generating a feedback loop: If every conversation is potentially three chat bots in a trenchcoat the fourth chat bot learning from that could be of a reduced quality. Therefore every AI firm (of which Facebook is regrettably one) needs to think about how to farm user generated content. I don’t think Zuck wants to be in the cloud business of hosting instances, at least not primarily. On the one hand he is a reliable business partner for regimes all around the world and “moderating” federated instances is a way to keep this business, on the other hand this will help Facebook to gain access to user generated conversation, and more important: potentially block competitor’s access in the future.
Very interesting take. I'm morbidly curious how a federated Internet will take shape because i know corporations will try their darndest to make it unbearable, and this seems like a pretty likely way for them to do it.
Why is he saying he would like to see a federated approach?
With federation there is no monetization, no centralized analytics, no centralized control over content. All things meta strives for
What I read before is that the plan was for facebook to introduce cheap instance hosting at the expense of making it a "franchise" they can control, monetize, monitor...somewhere between a self-hosted instance and a reddit sub.
So basically the worst from reddit (controlled, monetized, monitored) and the worst of lemmy (server instance handling and costs) lmao
Good luck with that
Additionally: While spez’s reasoning isn’t sound on the matter, it IS true, that user generated content is highly valuable to AI firms. With ChatGPT out the door, we shouldn’t expect anything to be written after a date a few years back to be written by a human. But this means these data sources aren’t “clear” from generating a feedback loop: If every conversation is potentially three chat bots in a trenchcoat the fourth chat bot learning from that could be of a reduced quality. Therefore every AI firm (of which Facebook is regrettably one) needs to think about how to farm user generated content. I don’t think Zuck wants to be in the cloud business of hosting instances, at least not primarily. On the one hand he is a reliable business partner for regimes all around the world and “moderating” federated instances is a way to keep this business, on the other hand this will help Facebook to gain access to user generated conversation, and more important: potentially block competitor’s access in the future.
Very interesting take. I'm morbidly curious how a federated Internet will take shape because i know corporations will try their darndest to make it unbearable, and this seems like a pretty likely way for them to do it.