Americans, what are your plans if Trump wins in 2024?

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blaming the president for the actions of random people definitely makes sense to me

Our elected leaders have an effect on how people act, violence increased during his last term.

unbiased proof? I don't see how people will just magically decide their aggression level based on the arbitrarily chosen political figurehead in power

Here is the hate crime incident count as reported from the FBI data explorer website. As you can see the count had been falling after 2001 up until 2016 where it then starts rising again.

  • 2000 8,219
  • 2001 9,730
  • 2002 7,485
  • 2003 7,545
  • 2004 7,684
  • 2005 7,411
  • 2006 7,715
  • 2007 7,624
  • 2008 8,039
  • 2009 6,612
  • 2010 6,628
  • 2011 6,299
  • 2012 6,593
  • 2013 6,044
  • 2014 5,597
  • 2015 5,843
  • 2016 6,270
  • 2017 7,329
  • 2018 7,180
  • 2019 7,875
  • 2020 9,952
  • 2021 10,891
  • 2022 11,643

and it's in the tens of thousands now that Joe is in office, do you want to explain that, or will you decide to pin the blame on the politician of the day to be a scapegoat? If you haven't realized, the "hate crimes" aren't being committed by just people who you politically disagree with, and saying they are is just pushing the blame onto others

I mean it's pretty obvious things haven't recovered from Trumps term. 2 months after joe won the election was jan 6th, but it wasn't joe supporters doing that. If you look at the data graphed it has hints of possibly leveling off and slowing its huge growth. We can't really say for sure as the FBI data wasn't available past 2022. I am sorry you feel people are personally attacking you when they call out conservative terrorism, but it's real issue and both sides are not the same in this respect. This isn't team sports, this shit has real world effects. I doubt I can get through to you though so I will just end it here, have a nice day.

I would like to make you aware of the fact that it's been proven most of the people in the Jan. 6 insurrection were government employees. I'm sorry simply having a discussion with you makes you feel like you have to defend yourself, but many of your sources and statements are either false or misleading, and clearly it would be a waste of my time conversing with someone that absorbed in their point of view. Good day!

Fuck off conspiracy theorist, I thought you were sincere but your just a clown.

"PROoooOVEn Most of thE PEOPle in THe jAN. 6 inSurReCtiON WErE gOVernMeNT eMplOYEeS."

Easy block

no, most of the people in it literally worked for the government, even the woman that got shot was literally in the air force, but thanks for revealing your barely veiled hubris lol

He's right. Your childish rants do not change that

Damn, Biden shot it through the roof. Guy is very dangerous. Get him out of there

Spoken like someone who has never been targeted based on the political climate, and hasn't cared for anyone who has.

Been targeted since the day the current fascist in chief got into power

yeah you know nothing about me or what I have to do in day to day life to be accepted in society by peers and colleagues, nice assumption though