I've seen people spouting this off a few times just today in respects to mastodon "is just as easy as email. People need to stop making excuses and use the alternatives". A few counter points.
the vast majority of people are computer illiterate
email is not "easy" to a lot of people in the same way twitter/ig/etc are
Those evalgelizing "it's just like email dude" are probably more tech savvy (they're here after all)
email may be easy but it's garbage and a 20th century solution and we are in the 21st century now
Not everyone has the same level of patience to understand all this federated nonsense
We (royal we) need to drop the "it's easy just learn it bro" nonsense. It's not the same. It's not like email. There's a reason it's not mass adopted yet and a lot of that is the complexity compared to the current products.
/rant
Why is my post here and not a reply? Because apparently replying to someone was giving me "Error: language_not_allowed" whatever that's supposed to mean lol
True. Except email
doesn’t de-federate from each other
doesn’t host a community (sub) that’s replicated on the others
etc
For starters… it’s difficult even for those technically advanced.
My thought: IF it survives and outgrows a centralized site, it might still fizzle out and die when one instance outgrows the others and decides “why do we need the others if we have the bigger user base with the most subscribers?” And then we’re back to square one.
Oh wait… this is about Mastodon, not Lemmy… point still stands for ActivityPub as a whole.
doesn’t de-federate from each other
Lulz.
Do you know what it feels like to get your personal email server banned by gmail and/or outlook.com? Its like you can't email anyone after that.
Yes. In that example, the bigger instance defederated the smaller one, but banning is an extreme case. You’d be relegated to junk/spam filters for a while before that for only those providers but your email works everywhere else.
My main point still stands. Most email providers play nice but what if Gmail suddenly said “Your email won’t work except with other Gmail users”?
Because apparently replying to someone was giving me “Error: language_not_allowed” whatever that’s supposed to mean lol
Quit making excuses and learn to use Lemmy, LOL. \s
(What it means is that Lemmy lets you select which language your post or comment is written in so that people who don't speak it can filter it out, but assuming you're not trying to set an invalid language on purpose, some kind of bug occurred.)
Agree to some extent. I think a better approach would be to explain why it is worth learning rather than claiming it is easy. It isn't terrible to learn but for the average user, yeah, it is a bit arcane especially compared to existing centralized platforms.
Unfortunately no one cares. Really, no one cares. People will simply keep sucking on Zuck's tits because it's easy, and this is not.
I am genuinely curious. What's the role of the new CEO if this turd keeps doing everything he can to burn this ish to the ground?
I've seen people spouting this off a few times just today in respects to mastodon "is just as easy as email. People need to stop making excuses and use the alternatives". A few counter points.
We (royal we) need to drop the "it's easy just learn it bro" nonsense. It's not the same. It's not like email. There's a reason it's not mass adopted yet and a lot of that is the complexity compared to the current products.
/rant
Why is my post here and not a reply? Because apparently replying to someone was giving me "Error: language_not_allowed" whatever that's supposed to mean lol
True. Except email
For starters… it’s difficult even for those technically advanced.
My thought: IF it survives and outgrows a centralized site, it might still fizzle out and die when one instance outgrows the others and decides “why do we need the others if we have the bigger user base with the most subscribers?” And then we’re back to square one.
Oh wait… this is about Mastodon, not Lemmy… point still stands for ActivityPub as a whole.
Lulz.
Do you know what it feels like to get your personal email server banned by gmail and/or outlook.com? Its like you can't email anyone after that.
Yes. In that example, the bigger instance defederated the smaller one, but banning is an extreme case. You’d be relegated to junk/spam filters for a while before that for only those providers but your email works everywhere else.
My main point still stands. Most email providers play nice but what if Gmail suddenly said “Your email won’t work except with other Gmail users”?
Quit making excuses and learn to use Lemmy, LOL. \s
(What it means is that Lemmy lets you select which language your post or comment is written in so that people who don't speak it can filter it out, but assuming you're not trying to set an invalid language on purpose, some kind of bug occurred.)
Agree to some extent. I think a better approach would be to explain why it is worth learning rather than claiming it is easy. It isn't terrible to learn but for the average user, yeah, it is a bit arcane especially compared to existing centralized platforms.
Unfortunately no one cares. Really, no one cares. People will simply keep sucking on Zuck's tits because it's easy, and this is not.
I am genuinely curious. What's the role of the new CEO if this turd keeps doing everything he can to burn this ish to the ground?