Reddit slowly became filled with hatelocked

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I have been on reddit for just about 12 years now. Something I've noticed over time is just how hateful the place has become. A complete outrage machine. Every single sub became filled with it. I've filtered so many subreddits over the last few years, it's insane. I don't know enough about this place to be sure, but I do hope it doesn't become the same type of echo chamber of anger.

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It's about 10 years ago they slowly began to forget their own reddiquette rules, 5 years ago they had almost vanished completely, although you can still find the rules on reddit, nobody upholds them anymore.

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette

Originally these rules were actually observed, not just by mods, but by users in general, and if you violated them, you were reminded.

Today most people on reddit don't even know they exist, and the site has devolved more and more.

I absolutely agree in the hope the same doesn't happen here.

Should we do something similar to reddiquette in lemmy? Lemmyquette?

Lemmy.world has taken the rules from their Mastodon, which are linked from the frontpage.

https://mastodon.world/about

Lemmy is a more fragmented system than reddit, but so far the lemmy instances/servers I have seen have pretty good rules, with few exceptions, that have been defederated.

If lemmy gets really big, I'm guessing it will split into spheres of different rules. For now I'm happy with the rules of lemmy.world, let's just hope there will be good mods enough to uphold them.

Relying on etiquette is a recipe for failure. You just end up with eternal September or worse.

And this is the problem with "norms". It only takes a handful of sociopaths who want to be jerks to break whatever it is.

I don't consider sociopaths as norms. I think reddit turned a bit infantile along the way, children testing boundaries or trying to be edgy can be a huge nuisance.

No matter whether it's "norms" or other groups, the only force that can hold a community civil long term, is good moderation. Without it any community is most likely to devolve.

That requires volunteers who care about the community. I think most people here are helping by not being asshats.

I think the user meant “norms”, as per the following definition:

norm

something that is usual, typical, or standard. "this system has been the norm in Germany for decades"

a standard or pattern, especially of social behavior, that is typical or expected of a group.

Thanks I misunderstood.

Yeah misunderstandings like this are the ones that people forget generate outrage and perceived hate.

I had completely forgotten "reddiquette" was a thing people actually followed back in the day.