It isn’t ‘anti-democratic’ to bar Trump from office. It’s needed to protect democracy | Steven Greenhouse

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It isn’t ‘anti-democratic’ to bar Trump from office. It’s needed to protect democracy | Steven Greenhouse
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This is my thing. I feel like barring anyone shouldn't be necessary. I would imagine if a giant, annoying sack of shit runs for office, they just wouldn't even come close to winning. They should be able to run given virtually any circumstance and if they're a terrible person or a criminal, the voters (ideally) would just not vote for that person. The situation we're currently in is just wild.

No, they shouldn't. It's a privilege to run for president, not a right. If you engage in trying to overthrow the government, you lose all privileges to run for ANY office. If regular jobs can bar you for being a criminal, then the highest office in the country should even be more rigorous. You apologists will be the end of us.

lmao who in the holy hell am i apologizing for? I'm just saying you would think the american voters would never in a million years vote for someone like trump. You would think that it wouldn't matter if he was on the ballot because he is so far from adequately filling the station of president that the american voters wouldn't even give that candidate a second thought on account of... well pretty much everything but let's go with criminality. the fact that he needs to be barred otherwise he would win the election or come very close is absolutely bonkers. Also, the fact that you not only disagree with the fact that the crux of the problem is the american voter simply cannot be trusted while also calling that apologizing for trump is so crazy

What is this hypothetical eutopia you're conflating with the US? Anyone paying attention over the last decade knows how troubled this country really is. There's a seriously fucked up portion that fluctuates between 20-33% of the country. There's also roughly 10-15% in addition to that that are so ignorant they'll let just about anything happen.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the American voter can't be trusted"... We voted Trump out in 2020. The problem is conservative voters can't be trusted not to burn the country down in the face of losing power. I'm not even a Democrat, that's how clear this has become.

i feel like we are in complete agreement here but for some reason you don't think so. I agree the country is troubled. I agree there is a big portion of the voter base that will vote for someone unfit for presidency. I agree there's also a decent portion that are ignorant or don't really care what happens. I agree conservative voters can't be trusted and may cause issues if they lose power.... which means they can't be trusted... unless you're saying conservatives aren't American voters somehow?

I would imagine if a giant, annoying sack of shit runs for office, they just wouldn't even come close to winning.

2016: giant annoying sack of shit is elected

haha yup. now it's like a shitty sequel where everything is worse but it still gets made somehow and somehow people pay to see it.

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