Electric school buses are a breath of fresh air for children | Nearly $1B in federal funding could help clean up the unequal health impacts of diesel pollution.
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Electric school buses are a breath of fresh air for children | Nearly $1B in federal funding could help clean up the unequal health impacts of diesel pollution.::Nearly $1B in federal funding will help decarbonize transportation and clean up some of the unequal health impacts of diesel pollution
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that doesn't fix the toxic diesel pollution does it?
Did you know that regular buses also come in electrical variants?
Even more shockingly: So do trams and metros.
obviously electric buses would be the solution which is shockingly the point of the argument. How dense are you?
Less dense than thinking that public transport can't use electric vehicles, claiming that public transport wouldn't fix diesel issues.
who said that? Can you even read?
You:
OP there wanted to know why school buses instead of ordinary public transport buses, separate from any diesel vs. electric issue.
You then went ahead and said "nuh-uh if we don't have dedicated school buses we can't fix diesel fumes".
That's why you got downvoted, that's why my snarky retort got upvoted. You may not have meant it like that but that's how what you wrote reads to other people.
I never suggested we don't or do have dedicated school buses. My point is crystal clear: all diesel buses, school or otherwise, are toxic to humans. School buses are a bigger problem, directly exposing kids to these harmful particulates. It's astonishing how my simple point about electrifying public transport and or school buses, which I've repeated ad nauseam, gets twisted. People's preconceived notions or maybe their reading comprehension problems are skewing the real issue here. It's not rocket science, yet here we are, going in circles.
Neither do school busses since only kids take those. If like most people took the bus instead of drove that would help immensely even if it was the most polluting bus ever.
um wtf? We all wearing gas masks or something? You realise diesel fumes are toxic to people right? Kids catching buses spewing toxic gas is not a good situation. I think you're focusing on the climate changing issue of pollution and not the pressing issue, which is the toxic fumes that come from diesel buses.
What kind of weird busses do you have in the states? Most busses (And a large amount of cars) here run on diesel and have no such issue.
if you think that you're delusional mate.
Sorry... you think there is no issue with children breathing diesel fumes?
Probably not a good idea for them to suck on the tailpipe but diesel busses are like the most common type of bus and they don't pump the exhaust into the cabin. So unless busses in the US do that or kids like the taste of tailpipe I don't see how that is even happening.
Because they stand next to the bus and wait in a line to get on while inhaling the fumes.
Are you saying school busses in the US are like a fog rolling into town or something? Because I'm having a hard time picturing how kids can have enough exposure to diesel fumes the way you described it works or how petrol fumes aren't an even bigger issue since they are waiting near a car road. Also having regular busses would reduce petrol and diesel fumes they breath in while waiting anyways if it works the way you describe.
What is 'enough' exposure to diesel fumes?
Enough to be harmful. Humans get exposed to dangerous things every single day, even if you don't leave the house, it's just in a quantity to not effect you during a human lifespan.
And you know it is not enough to affect children how? Have you done a study? Because the National Institute of Health here in the U.S. did.
It's 2 decades old so I hope the US has gotten better busses in the meantime because modern busses don't have this issue:
"The study showed that a child riding inside a diesel school bus may be exposed to as much as 4 times the level of diesel exhaust as someone riding in a car ahead of it."
The level of harm in that study was around 30 potential extra cases of cancer per million kids, that is fairly low considering the harm added by just general exhaust fumes for those living near busy roads. Even the study itself shows that living near a road frequented by trucks is more harmful.
So my suggestion of just get public transit would be better remains mostly resolute, I would just add that use trains for cargo and not trucks.
Ok... how is a kid living on a farm 10 miles from the main road and 20 miles from city limits going to get on public transit?