Online travel agent allows customers to filter out Boeing 737 Max planes

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Online travel agent allows customers to filter out Boeing 737 Max planes
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thought you were serious for a second, for those who aren't getting the joke, driving your car is thousands of times more dangerous than taking a plane flight

I don't think I have ever seen a bolt randomly fall off my car.

And have you ever seen a bolt fall off a plane you were flying on?

Can't say that I have but it is not really comparable since I would notice random ass fucking bolts in my driveway.

Ah yes, the location where your car experiences the most movement and vibrations and is most likely to lose a bolt: parked in your driveway. 🤦‍♀️

Where are Boeing planes losing bolts now? On the runway.

You work for them or something?

I called out something stupid you said, so I must be a shill 🙄

I said nothing stupid. Random bolts are not falling off my car. You are the one coming up with excuses for Boeing

Look. A few incidents happen close together, and everyone loses their damn mind and freaks out, saying they'll never use those aircraft again, even though 99.999% of the time, it's one of the safest ways to travel. It's extremely silly. This shit is a statistical anomaly.

At the end of the day, some of their aircraft have been grounded for investigation, and that's good. This will lead to it being even safer. I hope this also leads to regulatory change, resulting in Boeing no longer being responsible for themselves meeting safety standards.

But good lord people freaking out over a handful of incidences that will almost certainly never happen to them are just appealing to irrational fear.

I saw a cockroach in my kitchen. Killed it. Since I have only seen one I should assume it was a statistical anomaly and there isn't a hundred hidden ones I didn't see.

I have been in industrial/infrastructure way too long. When you see things like this there are problems you aren't seeing. And I find your attitude grossly irresponsible. You don't wait until the problem grows and people start dying in massive amounts before you decide to fix a problem, especially when the problem is tightening a fucking bolt. This isn't some crazy black swan event know one coildnhsve foreseen. It is applying torque for the right amount of time to a bolt.

Boeing has been having issues for a very long time. And it has all been the result of their short term cost only focused structure. Kept cutting corners, kept refusing to invent, kept on outsourcing to save money. And now we are seeing the results of it. Maybe they should go back to make things that fly well instead of being a company that knows how to temporarily inflate their stock price well.

How many more incidents need to keep happening before you will stop hail corporate them?

You don't wait until the problem grows and people start dying

Where did I say this? I said it's good they're being scrutinized. I said hopefully it would lead to better regulation and higher safety standards.

I'm talking about on an individual level, it's ridiculous to appeal to fear and say you're avoiding this thing forever because of a couple rare incidents that almost certainly won't affect you, especially while we're moving in the right direction in regards to overall safety. I hope this series of events results in a crackdown that whips Boeing into shape.

You're discussing in bad faith. Stop it.

Which one of us is now lying?

"and say you’re avoiding this thing forever"

Did I say that?

You’re discussing in bad faith. Stop it.

In terms of speech you plan to give to Congress when you beg for a bailout I think this can be improved.

I'm done talking to you. You clearly do not have either the skills or desire to have a level-headed, productive conversation. Cheers mate.

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Idk man I see this statistic all the time but you might survive a car crash but if you fall from a metal tube in the sky you are most likely dead as fuck. I think crashes happen lessoften but when you do crash in a plane theres usually zero survivors

You are the reason casinos make money.

Ok ok lol I can see why you'd say this so let me frame it another way. I've personally been in a car crash before (two), and I survived. Do you know one single person personally yourself who has survived a plane crash? What about two of them? Now what about car crashes? I bet you know at least one person who has survived a car crash, right?

I know more people that have died in car crashes (2, in separate instances, and one person that died in a motorcycle accident) than people who have died in plane crashes (0).

But that doesn't actually matter, because a) anecdotal evidence means very little, if not nothing when considering the scale of transportation industries and b) the numbers don't lie. Since 1970, 85,555 people have died in fatal aviation incidents. Around 100,000 people die or are disabled in car accidents every single month.

Your misunderstanding of statistics and probability and your idea that because the concept of a minor car accident exists, it nullifies the fact that they are dangerous, is just wrong.

I came back to find this comment. How do you feel about flying now? Make sure it's not a Boeing amirite?

I am an airframe and powerplant certified mechanic, I worked on 737NGs for years as well as a320/1/neo, etc.

I know more about aviation than you, I know more about plane crashes than you.

Hey if all that is true then yes you 100 percent do know more than I do about it that's no question lol just poking at it again because of the news with Boeing killing that guy and the tons of problems they've found them to have and they're still up there zipping around like nothing is happening.

There are stats about fatalities you know? Not just number of incidents. Cars are orders of magnitude more dangerous in those stats as well.

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