Border standoff between Texas, feds intensifies as governor defies Supreme Court ruling

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Border standoff between Texas, feds intensifies as governor defies Supreme Court ruling
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This week, the Supreme Court sided with federal agents to remove razor wire put in place by Texas along the Rio Grande. The state is using wire and state agents to block Border Patrol from accessing a section of the border in Eagle Pass. Homeland Security is demanding access to the area by Friday, but Gov. Greg Abbott is doubling down. Laura Barrón-López discussed the dispute with Stephen Vladeck.

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Can you explain how managing legal immigration is evil? I’m sure Texas would be happy to bus them all to your house. I trust you have the resources to take care of them.

Are you proposing that the average citizen should have the capacity to house immigrants and refugees, equal to, or surpassing that of one of the largest states in the country?

No but I’m shocked by how many people want to just throw open the border doors. Have you seen the numbers flowing in? It’s only going to get worse as the world economy crumbles. The money used to support it comes from our taxes. Do we need infrastructure? To take care of our own disenfranchised and needy? Provide services to tax paying citizens? The states have limited resources as well. Unmanaged immigration is not good. Immigration laws exist for a reason. I should know, I went through the entire US immigration process legally myself and even sponsored an immigrant while providing support for them. Open borders are no bueno.

You realize e have money for all of that yes? Some FEMA style camps to house folks safely until they are deported or processed is a nothing. A speck. A crumb.

The reason the roads are bad in your town, your locals are unhoused or needy is because of local mismanagement, and federal logjamming.

Lastly, we claim to be the best on the planet. Time to act like it

Have you seen the numbers? Could you link them?

The only thing I've been able to find is 2,2 million "encounters" in a high year, over the whole country.

Germany takes in a million immigrants per year by itself, and has at least a handful of encounters per immigrant to process them. Also has a bunch of encounters with illegal immigrants.

Germany is smaller than Texas.

This is what gets me. People like the person above have a sense of grievance blown all out of proportion in comparison to the reality of the situation. Yes, I've seen the numbers but i don't think the people panicking about immigration in the US have.

There's a lot to unpack here.

Have you seen the numbers flowing in?

No, and neither have you.

The money used to support it comes from our taxes.

It is a design choice - a Republican one - that we make legal immigration so difficult and time consuming that immigrants can't quickly get through the legal process and then pay for the process with their taxes. This argument lets the GOP design their own problem and then complain it isn't solved.

Unmanaged immigration is not good.

Straw man. No-one is arguing for unmanaged immigration; they are arguing for more immigration that is managed.

Immigration laws exist for a reason.

Yes, but you are talking like you don't know what that reason is, so I'll tell you. Per the Constitution, the number of House members a state gets depends on its human population, regardless of status. That means immigrants of all sorts, even illegal ones, count for it while standing in the state. The GOP and DNC both assume that districts with high immigrant populations will vote for the DNC, so the DNC always fights for making immigration easier and the GOP always gights for making it easier. Immigration laws are about preserving political power, not protecting your tax dollars.

I should know, I went through the entire US immigration process legally myself and even sponsored an immigrant while providing support for them.

Then how is it you seem to labor under the misapprehension that legal immigration is implemented in a practically functional way? Its backlog is quite infamous.