response to recent trends rule

spujb@lemmy.cafe to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone – 1249 points –

here are some hyper-polluting individuals:

  • the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
  • Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
  • Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)

relevant quote:

But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.

—Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)

edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.

edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.

She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…

and another good comment

[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.

sources/timeline for the above:

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I'm pretty sure he can't take a bus from London to New York. And I would be very surprised if he flies commercial when he crosses the ocean.

Obviously if she can get there without being so wasteful, she should. That was not my point. In fact, I specifically referenced The Beatles flying on a private plane when they first came to America. That would include Paul McCartney.

Idk how any of that is relevant. If Paul, at the height of his fame, could ride a bus without being mobbed then Taylor Swift can fly commercial with an entire airport's worth of security watching her back

Are you under the impression that he was going to gigs on a Greyhound?

It was a private bus.

He takes public city busses in NYC, London, and probably other places. Of course he's not taking a city bus on tour with him it's weird you would even imply that's what I meant

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/paul-mccartney-enjoys-taking-bus-find-grounding.html/

Looks like he rides the bus in Liverpool where he grew up and in New York where they're used to seeing famous people on public transportation.

So not, say, Kansas City.

And if he, a much bigger star, can reguarly ride a public bus around Manhattan without being mobbed I am confident that Taylor Swift could handle going through VIP checkin at Laguardia surrounded by armed security just like scores of other celebrities do.

Here's a list of 8 of them.

https://www.thethings.com/stars-who-fly-commercial/

And here's another list of 26 more

https://www.tmz.com/photos/image_jpg_20231020_8da245f0707046bfbaf7ceb51208e721/

Or she could charter a flight. I still don't see what is so bad about chartering a flight. Do you think if she didn't charter a flight, the thousands of other charter flights wouldn't happen? This is like complaining about limousines.

She could also fly commercial, there's no reason not to

Apart from, you know, the security risk I was talking about.

I'm not even talking about something hypothetical here.

https://bigeye.ug/taylor-swift-shuts-down-japans-airport/

The only reason that wasn't worse is because Japan is a polite society overall.

In all of your fervent defending of a non-issue, have you ever wondered why people go crazy to cause a security issue? It's because they all want to see their carefully curated bff tay-tay, an image created and maintained by Swift Inc. This is their own problem, and they do it to feed the fanatics that pour every penny they have into an imaginary persona. How the hell is everyone not realizing she's a BILLIONAIRE, where do you think that money is coming from? It's the same people that are now "security threats" apparently.

This is like getting mad at the news for showing black friday purchase riots. You're completely ignoring all of the situation to defend the poor companies being swarmed with customers.

Are you ever going to acknowledge the difference between a private flight and a chartered flight?

Are you just a troll? Do you even check who you're replying too? Lol after seeing the rest of your circular arguments on here I'm not getting into one of your repeat conversations.

Are you typing from the mad max universe?

Yes, in my Mad Max universe, rock stars take private buses across the country when going from gig to gig. That would never happen in the real world.

And people spawn out of nowhere high on meth in airports whenever celebs are around, apparently.

Its like youve never even seen an airport, just heard about them in myths

Yep. Again. Never happened ever. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/taylor-swift-mobbed-by-fans-delays-flights-at-japan-airport/articleshow/47147634.cms?from=mdr

Right, on the private flight that publicly announces her destination and time of arrival, which tells people where to plan to all congregate.

Wait, you mean thats only a thing for private flights? GASP

Exactly how many times do you need to be told that there is a difference between a chartered jet and a private jet?