Illinois judge rules Donald Trump is disqualified from the state's 2024 election ballot

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Illinois judge rules Donald Trump is disqualified from the state's 2024 election ballot
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Do you see the issue with one judge or a couple judges deciding who get to run for office at their whim?

Judges already do a lot more than that, they have the power to decide who lives and dies.

Thats fair, but Trump running for office could be a lot bigger than that if it leads to domestic conflict.

Judges generally don't care if their decisions lead to domestic conflict. Nor should they, that's how rule of law can succumb to mob rule.

I understand that, but when judges do things like remove people from ballots over accusation, that is obviously a political decision.

When they reject congressional maps that violate the Voting Rights Act, that is also political. It has resulted in elected representatives losing their seats. Multiple times.

Judges enforce the law, and politics are not above the law

The law is not what they say, its biased and is not real justice many times. Do you recognize the five or so prosecutions against trump are political, and could result in severe domestic violence?

I think Trump broke the law and needs to face the consequences. I am not afraid of his threats of violence.

Okay, lets look at the real estate "crime" because i know real estate well. Who did he defraud and how?

He lied on his loan applications, which is illegal.

How did he lie on his application and who was harmed by this?

He overstated the value of his assets on a loan document. This is illegal in NY, so the people of NY were harmed.

Are you aware of underwriting? What it does is the loan company asks for all of the information it wants, and uses that information to decide if they should give you money and how much money to give you. So it doesnt matter what value they put on the property, the loan company decides what the value is.

This is illegal in NY, so the people of NY were harmed.

How is having an opinion that your property is worth more than someone else thinks a crime? And if it is, how can you possibly justify so much for a crime what you cant point to an actual person that was directly or even indirectly harmed?

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