Here’s how the makers of the “Suyu” Switch emulator plan to avoid getting sued

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Here’s how the makers of the “Suyu” Switch emulator plan to avoid getting sued
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TL;DR:

  • They will avoid monetization

  • They will avoid providing step-by-step guides to play games on the emulator (I assume they mean extracting games from the console using hacked tools)

  • They will avoid providing keys or circumvent DRM, you'll have to get everything from your Switch

  • The devs are upset at how much attention they're getting which is kind of ironic considering the article.

"We wanted to fly under the radar at the start [...] It's already much more widespread than ideal for the current stage of development."

Which is how emulation worked the last 20 years. It flew under the radar because they weren't doing anything explicitly illegal, while also avoiding getting paid or having anything point at you.

Yuzu flew too close to the sun. I'm sorry, but they did. They very brazenly operated like they were challenging Nintendo. They werent just emulating games from last Gen but modern Gen games that just came out. Like it or not, that is taking money from Nintendo and it was obvious they were going to get the hammer.

For me I'm mad at them. Mad because their cavalier attitude made all emulation look the same as piracy, which it isn't. There's a clear dividing line and Yuzu came very close to labeling all emulation as piracy.

I got freaking crucified for this sentiment the day the news dropped.

They very brazenly operated like they were challenging Nintendo.

This claim has the same vibe as "stand your ground" assaults.

For me I'm mad at them.

And victim blaming??

No he's right, Yuzu's Devs were openly encouraging piracy. It was all over their discord.

That's why they settled so quickly, they were fucked otherwise.

Source? Is there proof to the claim? I didn't see it, but I wasnt on the discord. Heck I didn't even see it in the settlement info. Not saying its not possible, I just dont trust nonsourced claims.

I don't know why you're getting down voted, it's completely reasonable to ask for sources.

Here's an example, look at the tweet referenced which shows an except from the legal filing: https://twitter.com/gamr12/status/1765098920521461869

Essentially, the Devs were writing articles and posting messages about games working before they were officially released. As in, before people have legal means to purchase them.

You might argue that it's not uncommon for people to get pre orders early, sure, but this is clearly pushing it.

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They will avoid monetization

Funny: "suyu also needs to be a product. We need to find ways to monetise the project"

https://gitlab.com/suyu-emu/suyu/-/wikis/Contributor-License-Agreement-Policy

Could it be that they just copied the one in yuzus repo and hard-replaced the names? Three quote makes reference to 2019, which is very weird for a 2024 project, but would be more normal for the timeframe of yuzu

However, in order to compete with modern emulators in 2019 and beyond, suyu also needs to be a product.

Could it be that they just copied the one in yuzus repo and hard-replaced the names?

Yes, it's pretty much the same text as before but contributor zqpvr also adjusted the spelling of "monetized" to "monetised", so it's definitively not like the document flew under the radar and it was just part of a bulk import with a search and replace of yuzu to suyu: https://gitlab.com/suyu-emu/suyu/-/wikis/Contributor-License-Agreement-Policy/diff?version_id=f4ca3a5422d153139ccc66fc4d86ccb844d937e7

So for now "2) more easily monetise the project [...] 3) restrict the access of non-core parts of the suyu source code" is the policy of suyu until revoked.

Will have to see how it goes, might be some OCD as another typo was also there.

I hope they don't get Nintendo any ammo to go after them.

Will have to see how it goes, might be some OCD as another typo was also there.

Deleting the entire thing would have gotten rid of the typo as well. At this point, that's just stupidity.

Cloning the repo of yuzu right at Nintendo tried to make an example of them might be considered...stupid.

Don't get me wrong, I hope the best for them. But I would not risk my future against Nintendo.

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