Joe Biden calls trans people “fabric of our nation” in Trans Day of Visibility proclamation

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Joe Biden calls trans people “fabric of our nation” in Trans Day of Visibility proclamation
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In commemoration of the upcoming Transgender Day of Visibility (TDOV), President Joe Biden issued a statement praising trans people’s contributions to society and describing actions his administration has taken to counter transphobic bullying and extremism. Additionally, many members of Biden’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) also issued their own statements affirming that community health depends on supporting trans people too.

“Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our Nation,” Biden wrote in his statement. “Whether serving their communities or in the military, raising families or running businesses, they help America thrive. They deserve, and are entitled to, the same rights and freedoms as every other American, including the most fundamental freedom to be their true selves.”

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Please list the descriptors that show Joe Biden is a fascist, because I'm looking at Umberto Eco's and I see... maybe 1, if you reach a bit: "appeal to the middle class"

You probably fall under at least 4 though.

he's funding a genocide, is the leader of a country that has one of the proportionally largest prison populations in the world that are used as slaves, the U.S. is a police state who spies on its own citizens and regularly just bombs/assassinates activist movements. Any president not acting to dismantle that is fascist.

shocking that you're just learning this now, but the United States are the bad guys

That's not really a good answer though. Those are policies put in place long before Biden became president, but not only that, you haven't proposed an alternative. Your current solution is "Don't vote for Biden" but the outcome is that you either get Biden, a continuation of the status quo at worst, or you get Trump, a continuation of the status quo AT BEST. You can pretend you live in a world where you get a third party candidate, but you don't.

Which leaves you in an unfortinate bind, since that makes you a fascist by your own definition. You are trying to push a solution that would make the situation at best the same, and at worst, much, much worse. As you said:

Any president not acting to dismantle that is fascist

I assume you would never take an action that would support a fascist. So, how can you argue that in a First-Past-The-Post voting system (and one that defaults to state legislatures if no majority is made), voting for a third party is a viable solution?

I think you can't if you are against fascism. You can post links to antifascist movements, organizations, or steps to take, but the American election system is too fucked to argue against the two big parties unless you are ever the optimist, but I don't think you are if you argue both parties are fascist.

You're forgetting that biden spent almost his entire career in the senate. He's part of the political machine that put those policies into place. Things are only getting worse, which is how assholes like trump rise to start with. If things were going great, then a candidate like trump wouldn't have found a foothold.

If the Dems lose elections or nearly lose elections because 10% of voters choose a leftist third party, the party will move left to capture those voters. If we keep voting them in as-is, they will have no incentive to change. I am an optimist, actually, because I believe in the capacity for change. The results from the primary elections prove to me that this strategy is viable.

You're forgetting that Democrats losing means Republicans winning. And when Republicans win elections, it pushes the entire country to the right. It happened with Reagan, the Tea Party, and Trump.

This approach only spirals us further into far right extremism.

That's not what fascism is?

Idk why your definition of fascism doesn't include labor camps, war-mongering, and a militarized policing of our own people.

Because that's not fascism. Fascism is hypernationalism and tacit acceptance of political violence to support your goals. Everything you've mentioned is usually there with fascist regimes, but it isn't what makes the regime fascist.

There are many definitions of fascism, but, the United States absolutely fits the definition you just gave.

Not every country has their flags flying constantly. Not every country has a pledge of allegiance to a flag in their schools. And the United States has bombed, imprisoned, and assassinated domestic political threats.

Hmm. I do agree, the pledge of allegiance is really weird and fascistic. And you do have a point on the violence.

I suppose I typically see the violence as needing to be more pervasive, like how Trump supporters send death threats to judges and political opponents and the whole Jan 6 thing. But throughout our history, we have had violent intimidation of oppositional political figures.

I think I wouldn't call the US fascist because it isn't significantly pervasive, but I completely see your point, and I don't begrudge you identifying it as fascist. I certainly see why you think that and I can't disagree beyond semantics.

Fair enough. Personally, I do begrudge you not using the term Fascist because I think if more people used that term to refer to our government, more people would be rightfully angry. It is alarming and scary to me that people are not seeing this country for what it is. Words have power.

I think the people we'd need to convince aren't going to be swayed by the terminology. You need to get the middle rightfully angry, and what we learned from Vietnam is that you need to show them examples of the atrocities.

Don't bother feeding into this whoreticulture account, they are pretending to be trans and then acting awful to try to get people to wrongfully think badly of trans people. I'm working on making a script that automatically warns people about their account.

Umberto didn't invent fascism

Mussolini did

Imagine posting your definition for fascism instead of nothing relevant.