Which completely deprives them of representation. Even if they only got 10%, that 10% of people will have no voice.
It needs to be more like Nebraskas current method but in every state, along with ranked choice voting. Winner takes all, let alone FPTP and the EC as a whole, are horribly stupid.
It doesn't matter how you change the voting system. Only one person can be president. And once a president is chosen, by whatever means, anyone who wanted someone else "has no voice" by your definition.
@FlowVoid@Soulg true, but then it won't be the *majority* of people who didn't "have a voice" which is a stark improvement over the current situation
The president almost always gets a majority of the popular vote.
Of course I think the president should always, not almost always, get a majority. But that just requires switching to a national popular vote, not one of the various other schemes under discussion.
Republicans won both 2000 and 2016 despite losing the popular vote.
Right, which is why I said almost always instead of always. Out of 57 contested elections, the popular vote winner won 52.
While we're changing things that should be one of the things we change as well. There should not be a unitary executive with ability to override the will of the people. There should be a council or something similar where a group of views are represented and a decision come to. Making things more democratic is always a worthy goal.
We have that too, it's called Congress
False. The Senate is anti-democratic in intent. Meant to block the will of the people. And the house has been artificially capped for the last 100ish years. Becoming largely unrepresentative and horribly gerrymandered. It should be representative, democratic, and not over-ruleable by a single person or non speaking filibuster.
Which completely deprives them of representation. Even if they only got 10%, that 10% of people will have no voice.
It needs to be more like Nebraskas current method but in every state, along with ranked choice voting. Winner takes all, let alone FPTP and the EC as a whole, are horribly stupid.
It doesn't matter how you change the voting system. Only one person can be president. And once a president is chosen, by whatever means, anyone who wanted someone else "has no voice" by your definition.
@FlowVoid @Soulg true, but then it won't be the *majority* of people who didn't "have a voice" which is a stark improvement over the current situation
The president almost always gets a majority of the popular vote.
Of course I think the president should always, not almost always, get a majority. But that just requires switching to a national popular vote, not one of the various other schemes under discussion.
Republicans won both 2000 and 2016 despite losing the popular vote.
Right, which is why I said almost always instead of always. Out of 57 contested elections, the popular vote winner won 52.
While we're changing things that should be one of the things we change as well. There should not be a unitary executive with ability to override the will of the people. There should be a council or something similar where a group of views are represented and a decision come to. Making things more democratic is always a worthy goal.
We have that too, it's called Congress
False. The Senate is anti-democratic in intent. Meant to block the will of the people. And the house has been artificially capped for the last 100ish years. Becoming largely unrepresentative and horribly gerrymandered. It should be representative, democratic, and not over-ruleable by a single person or non speaking filibuster.