An astronaut is landing on the moon. For the first time, it won't be an American

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An astronaut is landing on the moon. For the first time, it won't be an American
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No. The sentence you posted implies a football match was never before attended by any person.

If you want to say one of many, you should say Some person/someone.

Or you can qualify the person. E.g. A non-american astronaut will be landing on the moon for the first time.

Nope, because you know football matches have been attended by people. Ignoring basic facts doesn't make your understand correct, it's silly.

Yes, so we are talking about a sentence in the headline where we don't have extra context, yet you make an sentence where it is clear the sentence is stupid based on outside context and argue it should be interpreted the other way around because otherwise we know it is stupid. Amazing logic.

Just because I can deduce what you actually meant does not mean the sentence is correct.

You have kept your eyes and ears shut your whole life?

I for one don't know how many astronauts are being sent to the moon when. And if most people do, no point writing this article, is there?

We know people have been to the moon before.

So what? No one is saying the sentence says or implies for the first time. It just implies one person will be going this time.

So you know the context. It doesn't imply that, just a faulty assumption/logical fallacy.

That is like me saying there is one pope and your takeaway is there is at least one. Yes, the sentence does not explicitly state there is only one, but it strongly implies it, just like the title.

It doesn't state it, and it's not really important if it's one of a few on a crew (as you would expect).

That's like someone boasting he rode the Tour de France and then claiming it is not important he rode it on a motorbike. There is a big difference between another nation reaching the moon and a foreigner hitching a ride with the Americans.

PS: No matter how much you try to move the goal post, I said "implies" from the start and you said it doesn't. I ain't falling for "it does not state it".

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