Democrats need to pull themselves together and remember: Biden is still better than Trump

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Democrats need to pull themselves together and remember: Biden is still better than Trump
usatoday.com

While rebutting another post here on Lemmy, I ran into this. This says exactly what I want to say.

I am not a friend of Biden's Administration. I think they drug their feet over a variety of things ranging from holding Trump and his goons accountable for January 6th through rulemaking on issues like OTC Birth Control and abortion rights, and yes, I think he's too quick to please big business. But then I remember what the alternative is, and ... well, disappointed in Biden or not, I'm voting for him. Because my wife is a Black bisexual goth woman, four strikes under Team Pepe's tent. And I have my own strikes for marrying her as a White dude, and respecting her right to not have kids since she doesn't want them is another strike against me. And I care about my Non-Christian, Gay, Transgender, and Minority friends, and will never willingly subject them to Team Pepe.

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Okay. Vote for a literal Nazi or don't vote for anyone and let a literal Nazi tale office, again.

Either way, I don't really give a flying fuck what you get on your political bingo card, you enabled a literal fucking Nazi tale the office, again and I'll think you're an abject idiot so I guess we'll all good.

what does "literal" mean?

Supporting the literal policies of nazis and copying their rhetorics and power structures and beliefs.

The republicans are knowingly and wilfully hosting and supporting actual neonazis who do all this and admit to be neonazis, and then the republicans yell free speech and cancel culture if you call them out for it

Meanwhile Democrat candidates like Biden (and Clinton) have been openly and publicly endorsed by multiple Neo-Nazi and White Nationalist groups.

You're a completely moronic simpleton if you believe "my side good, your side bad" when it comes to the two major US political parties, they are both disgustingly awful.

Show me the numbers. Because the Republican party is the only one who takes them in and has significantly greater support from those types.

"both sides" logic doesn't make sense when one side is just classical politicians and the other are literal fascist insurrectionists. Yes politicians of all kinds sucks and I don't even like the democrats. But if you can't see the other side are monsters and 1000x worse then you're completely blind.

Gee, one side does a genocide, the other side embraces neonazis. Almost like they're not so different.

Vote for a literal Nazi

I was going to vote for a third party who was neither a Nazi nor a geriatric buffoon.

you enabled a literal fucking Nazi tale the office

My guy, you need to sit down and look up what the Electoral College is. No single person is in any way remotely responsible for Donald Trump's presidency, except maybe the 304 electoral college delegates who had the privilege of being in the majority in January of 2016.

Trying to blame individual voters in a system that deliberately disempowers individual voters is ignorant and foolish.

My guy, you need to sit down and look up what the electoral college is.

Hillary lost Michigan by 10k votes, one of the key states whose 16 electoral votes were a major train went despite Hillary winning the popular vote, that fat, orange, white supremacist won the election.

You say a single voter doesn't matter but when you currently have 100k in Michigan voting 'uncommited' in the Democratic primary against the backdrop of you lost an entire god damn election by 10k, yeah maybe that single voter might actually be important. But you just keep that head in the sand and mumble how or can't ever happen again.

Hillary lost Michigan by 10k votes

Hillary lost Michigan for the same reason Romney lost Michigan. She campaigned on a platform of international trade deals and domestic deindustrialization. Folks in the Midwest consistently hate that.

Biden's running a ten-point approval gap relative to Gretchen Whitmer, doing all the annoying toxic shit Hillary did. If he loses Michigan in November, that's why.

You say a single voter doesn’t matter but when you currently have 100k in Michigan voting ‘uncommited’ in the Democratic primary

100k is a lot more than a single voter. And this is an entirely unforced error on Biden's part. He's continuing to sponsor a nightmarish genocide in Palestine - one that virtually nobody in his party actually supports and which has poisoned huge swaths of the independent electorate against his presidency.

That's not something a "single voter" can fix. That's a direct consequence of Biden's own foreign policy. The only voter who can save Joe Biden from a loss in Michigan is Joe Biden.

I hope Biden loses. I'll be voting third party, but I don't think my candidate will win. What I hope is that the next time a president has the opportunity to support a genocide, he'll think twice.

So when Trump wins and commits even harder to the genocide, you think that will teach Biden a lesson?

Yes, I hope it will prevent the next genocide by demonstrating that we Americans do in fact give a damn about war crimes and atrocities.