Democrats need to pull themselves together and remember: Biden is still better than Trump

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Democrats need to pull themselves together and remember: Biden is still better than Trump
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While rebutting another post here on Lemmy, I ran into this. This says exactly what I want to say.

I am not a friend of Biden's Administration. I think they drug their feet over a variety of things ranging from holding Trump and his goons accountable for January 6th through rulemaking on issues like OTC Birth Control and abortion rights, and yes, I think he's too quick to please big business. But then I remember what the alternative is, and ... well, disappointed in Biden or not, I'm voting for him. Because my wife is a Black bisexual goth woman, four strikes under Team Pepe's tent. And I have my own strikes for marrying her as a White dude, and respecting her right to not have kids since she doesn't want them is another strike against me. And I care about my Non-Christian, Gay, Transgender, and Minority friends, and will never willingly subject them to Team Pepe.

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when the bar is on the floor its easy to jump over it. Biden is also better than being boiled alive that doesn't mean I am voting for him

Biden is also better than being boiled alive that doesn't mean I am voting for him

If "Everyone gets boiled alive" was on the ballot and had the tiniest chance of passing, you would be an idiot to not vote.

choosing your master doesn't make you not a slave, you would be an idiot to vote

Not choosing doesn't make you any less of a slave. You would be an idiot not to vote.

Not voting makes you indistinguishable from the people who don't care. If you don't like the system you still do the one thing you can do on voting day and at least vote, then the other 1460 days between voting days you do something to improve the system.

That's where you are wrong. You think I want to improve the system. I was to dismantle the system. Slightly better slavery is still slavery.

In my state, if being boiled alive was up against Biden, I can vote for a third option, or not at all, and Biden will still will. So, it really depends on the state you're in. Furthermore, telling other people how they should cast their vote and trying to guilt them into voting one person over the other is not only pathetic, but also very un-American. If you're in a swing state, vote for who you want and ignore the keyboard warriors who are going to do nothing about it anyways.

Furthermore, telling other people how they should cast their vote and trying to guilt them into voting one person over the other is not only pathetic, but also very un-American.

Ah yes, because comments like

Biden is also better than being boiled alive that doesn't mean I am voting for him

Isn't trying to convince people how to vote. Nor are comments like:

In my state, if being boiled alive was up against Biden, I can vote for a third option, or not at all, and Biden will still will.

Are you new to American Elections? The entire process is people trying to convince Americans how to vote. That is what Democrats and Republicans are doing the entire time!

Obviously each party has to convince the masses who to vote for. And obviously this is done via news articles and televised debates. But you know damn well I was referring to random clowns on social media telling other people what to do with their vote. No one's opinion here or elsewhere matters. And if I were new to American elections, I wouldn't have mentioned swing states and the importance of knowing what your vote can do if your state is not a swing state. And no, his comments were not trying to convince people to not vote for Biden - he just said he wouldn't vote for Biden - and that's his choice with his vote. I thought it was pretty clear.

So if you were voting in a first past the post system, and the two leading candidates were Biden and 'everyone gets boiled alive', you would not vote for Biden?

A large number of these people would abstain, and then unironically complain about being boiled alive.

Pretty sure that's how Trump got elected the first time

did ‘everyone gets boiled alive’ materially support a genocide? If no, then I would vote for ‘everyone gets boiled alive’.

Wouldn't boiling everyone alive constitute a genocide?

That's up to the intergalactic council to sort out. I doubt it tho. The rest of the universe is pretty uninterested in us.

The definition of genocide doesn't require authority to be applied. It's like homicide, even without a conviction someone can be a murderer. What Israel is doing doesn't need a ruling by the UN to be called a genocide, which is good because the UN apparently still hasn't made up their mind.