When you donate, do you ever think of the person that gets your blood and how high their hospital bill will be?

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So this letter board is clearly advertising Canadian blood services. Canada's healthcare system could use a lot of work, but it is far from the dumpster fire that American healthcare is.

If you want to shitpost about this and assume as Americans do that America is the only place, maybe try to find an image that isn't so obviously from a country with universal healthcare.

Yup in America we donate the blood to hospitals that sell the blood.. So why can't we deduct blood donations for their monetary value on tax forms?

in America you donate blood for free, and your blood gets sold to the hospitals for 100-400 dollars. then the hospitals charge the patients who receive it even more than that.

In Canada we donate blood for free, then they sell it to America.

to top up all the dumbasses who get shot down there in actual hell

That is true. And Canadian Blood Services is still super homophobic.

Are they?

Canadian Blood Services (CBS) says it plans to introduce the new behaviour-based questionnaire approach “no later” than Sept. 30. It will apply to both blood and plasma donations, outside of Quebec.

It will mean that when all donors are screened before rolling up their sleeves, they’ll be asked whether they have recently engaged in anal sex in the context of new or multiple sexual partners within the last few months. If they have, they would not be able to donate until they had gone three months without engaging in that activity.

I thought that change (2022) was the end of the discussion.

Tragically, no. I thought so too until quite recently. They did improve things but it's pretty rough

Since a viral load can be reduced to zero through medication, HIV-positive folks can be non contagious. The use of condoms, even if the viral load is not suppressed through medication, seriously reduces the risk of HIV transmission. They don't ask questions about condom usage. To be clear I'm not suggesting that HIV-positive folks should be donating blood, just that the actual factors for transmission are way more specific than "butt stuff = AIDS" the way that they imply. The result of this is still excluding queer folks end up getting excluded with language that's less overtly hostile and more implicitly hostile.

The screening doesn't exclude people based how many partners a person has slept with, or whether they have used protection (both of which are massive risk factors for transmission) and instead basically forbids anyone who engages in anal sex from donating blood.

The last time I donated blood (quite recently) I was asked if I had had a new sex partner or more than one sex partner the last 3 months.

I was asked if I had had sex with anyone within the last year that had previously had/ tested positive for hiv/aids.

I was asked if I had taken any hiv/aids preventers.

Is it the follow-up questions to these initial screening questions that are homophobic?

I don't know about Canada; but over here you only get those questions if they deem you a high risk group and; depending on your responses; if they think you're gay and had sex in the last year, you're not allowed to donate.

It sounds like Canada is only okay w gays donating blood if they're in a heteronormative couple, which; I'm willing to bet; is as a depressingly tiny minority of gay men like it is in the United States.

Sometimes, the smart prejudice is subtle or hidden in the details so that it's more palatable to the rest and/or to confuse those who don't look too closely.

In my country you get a day off on top of being paid for your blood donation, I think you get some tax benefits on top of that too.