Had to buy a certain product to use a certain substance and there's a really stupid new law.

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What is this? Some sort of 'protect the children because they're totally not using apples and soda cans' bullshit?

Why is this in any way necessary or even useful?

Edit: Just discovered this was about tobacco, making this even stupider since this product isn't for tobacco, it's for cannabis. https://dclcorp.com/blog/news/pact-act-impacts-vape-industry/

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It's not weed itself. It's also never been a regulation before this year.

Would I be mad signing for alcohol? No.

Would I be mad signing for a cocktail shaker? Yes.

If alcohol needed an implement to consume I would have no doubt it would be controlled as well.

Headshops aren’t suppose to sell to minors, since they were skirting the law, now new laws have come out to handle it.

Except it turns out that this law is about tobacco and not weed at all- https://dclcorp.com/blog/news/pact-act-impacts-vape-industry/

So making me sign for this cannabis vaporizer will definitely have a big impact on the tobacco industry.

Weed and tobacco have the same restrictions for selling to minors, no? This can be used for both as well yeah?

Did you even read the article? The law is called PACT, which stands for "Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking." It has absolutely nothing to do with cannabis.

Incidentally, you can also use vaporizers for CBD products, and there are no legal age requirements for CBD in many states.

Do you not comprehend this can be used for stuff illegally for minors, so hence the need to sign to prove not a minor…?

Tobacco/THC doesn’t matter, it can be used. Great you can use it for potpourri or cbd, doesn’t mean it’s not an implement to consume other products illegally if you’re underage.

So can cocktail shakers. So is there a need to sign for a cocktail shaker?

And, again, read the article. This is about tobacco. It's very clear.

A cocktail shaker isn’t required to consume alcohol, while cannabis or tobacco need implements….

I’ve read the article, can you not understand that both are illegal for minors to consume, so going to head shop instead of a Tabacco shop isn’t suddenly going to make it legal to sell to minors dude…..

Since it’s illegal for Tobacco that extends to other illegal stuff as well, not a hard concept to wrap around dude.

A vape is a tobacco product, it’s also a cannabis product, who thunk…….

How about this? You provide evidence to support the idea that this law was in any way intended to restrict minors from using cannabis. I'll wait.

  • It prevented minors from buying. The ultimate goal was to limit the pathways that tobacco and related products can get to minors. There was a greater emphasis on online retail because it was harder to track the age of consumers.

A vape is a tobacco product and a cannabis product.

“Related” fits the term for cannabis, both are illegal to sell to minors, and both are usually covered by the same law.

Give your head a shake dude, you think you can buy this just because you want to use it for CBD when it can absolutely be bought and used by a minor if it’s “for cannabis” and not explicitly tobacco….?

The law is to prevent implements to consume to minors, which is illegal……..

Now you're being dishonest. You have no idea what "and related products" means, you're just guessing. I'm not even sure how cannabis is related to tobacco.

That is not evidence to support your claim.

Is tobacco illegal to sell to minors?

Is cannabis illegal to sell to minors?

If the answer to both of these questions are yes, and you are still arguing, you need to seriously re-read cannabis and tobacco laws….

Again, that is not evidence that PACT was intended to restrict minors from using cannabis. It doesn't sound like you have evidence.

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Your article makes clear that the amendment to the PACT Act makes it apply broadly.

..."any electronic device that, through an aerosolized solution, delivers nicotine, flavor or any other substance to the user inhaling from the device.”

The article is about how vendors are going to have a difficult time confirming to the new regulations.

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