They're not being criticized for doing the right thing. They're being criticized for the negative aspect. Many others have answered it, but the way you're framing this is kinda strange.
You'd equally criticize anyone else that you thought had the power to save a drowning man but sat there watching for a while before finally saving him.
Now imagine their replacement actively wants to drown people and for some reason there are people who think both sides are reasonable choices and others are backing the pro-drowning guy.
I'll take the guy who took his time. And yeah, I'm going to call out the critics.
Now imagine their replacement actively wants to drown people and for some reason there are people who think both sides are reasonable choices
Nobody here is saying that. Do you really think the person who's wondering why it took this long is sitting there saying the Republicans made a reasonable choice to remove net neutrality? Really?
others are backing the pro-drowning guy.
Who cares? They're irrelevant to this. We already disagree with them. We're likely never going to agree with them. They're not criticizing how long it took to reverse Net Neutrality. They're mad that it was reimplemented at all.
I'll take the guy who took his time.
What? Who isn't? Again, the action of reimplementing Net Neutrality isn't being criticized. Them taking this long is what's being criticized. Or do I need to ask you to give evidence of left leaning people complaining that Net Neutrality was reimplemented?
You're advocating for just taking whatever you get as long there's someone worse. With that same logic, the guy could wait and watch the drowning guy get bitten by something in the water and get injured trying to save himself and then save him. You'd still accept that no problem huh? You're saying that there's no reason to improve, because at least you're better than the other guy.
Furthermore, everyone I've seen so far has accepted the reason for it taking this long. So again, the way you're framing this is strange.
Congrats. Now the pro-drowning person is in charge.
Fascinating how there's no logical reason for that to happen, but carry on. Doesn't look like you ever cared to actually make a reasonable case for yourself.
You kept insulting people who helped drowning victims, now no one wants to save drowning people, or is scared to do so. So the pro- drowning people faction has won.
Insulting? You're insulted by any kind of criticism huh? Yeah, makes sense. And that's not in any way how this works. That's not at all analogous to what we're talking about anymore.
Because it was a terrible analogy to start. You can't view Democrats in a vacuum.
You just misrepresented what I said and ignored my point. YOU never made a reasonable case. You keep putting Dems down, don't be surprised when fascists win.
Trump is going to win unless people start supporting Biden. Same with congress. Celebrate the wins or the centrists are going to give control to the fascists.
You just misrepresented what I said and ignored my point.
Quote it then. You've done literally nothing to actually show where or how I've done that.
YOU never made a reasonable case.
My point was always: you can criticize a negative aspect of something without it being a criticism of the entire thing. That still holds true.
Now you're trying to make this about the Democrats as a whole. You're really not able to think about things in parts huh? I can criticize something taking far too long(which, if you saw my response to another comment, removes pretty much all actual criticism from this specific case) and still accept that they did something good. Merely asking why it took this long isn't, by any means, saying that them doing the thing was wrong. I've said this multiple times already.
Trump is going to win unless people start supporting Biden.
Let me know when left leaning persons have started voting, in significant numbers, for Biden merely because they have criticisms for Biden. That's actually asinine. Actually going along with that same logic, do you think Republicans and centrists magically start voting for Democrats if any criticism is levied from their side?
Celebrate the wins or the centrists are going to give control to the fascists
Nah, I'm not stupid. I'm not going to ignore every negative thing that "my side" does just because you think it means the other side will lose. As I said before that's literally giving leeway for them to do absolutely anything they want, as long as they're at least marginally better than Republicans. I've gladly accepted that Net Neutrality is back, but I'm not going to realize it's only back now after years, and ignore it without good reason. At this point, we're not even arguing over the actual Net Neutrality case anymore.
You're fucking blind if you've been missing all of the "don't vote" or "vote 3rd party" propaganda around here.
Soooo, where's the quote my guy? Instead of actually responding with something of worth, you make a piss poor insult that doesn't even make sense. I'm not even sure what part of my comment that's supposed to be in response to, because again, I'm not stupid. Why would any kind of propaganda work on me?
Nevertheless, seeing as you really don't have anything of substance to add, I guess we're done here.
I don't have to fall for your sealioning shit because everyone who's not a fucking troll already knows how bad it is lol
I'm just jumping in to call out your "oh we would never do such a horrible thing as not vote" bullshit. Fuck you, own it at least.
I don't have to fall for your sealioning shit
You don't know what sealionong is. 1. It has to be repetitive or be multiple requests 2. It has to be in spite of requests that were previously fulfilled. It's been one request. You said I misrepresented you. So quote where I did. It would literally be you scrolling up and copy/pasting it. It's one simple request. Hell, my comments have been far longer than yours. If anyone's a troll here, it's you. You've yet to make a substantial point.
And I might as well address your other comment in this one too.
The analogy was never about Democrats; it was about being able to criticize anyone while still accepting that they did a good thing overall. You're the dumb one that tried to jump all over the place.
I'm just jumping in to call out your "oh we would never do such a horrible thing as not vote" bullshit.
You mean the thing that you brought up? Absolutely nobody said anything about not voting. If this is a troll, at least do something that isn't this blatantly dumb. C'mon, at least make a comment that'll demand more than a quick 2-minute response from me. I clearly have the free time. I miss the days when trolls were at left somewhat intelligent. It's also an apt analogy for the situation it was actually getting used for. The other commenter was able to interact with it perfectly.
But you know what, I said I was done before and now I'm gonna stand by it unless you can actually back up the stupid claims you're making. Quote where I misrepresented you or I guess we really are done.
EDIT: Holy hell! I only now noticed that I'm responding to two different users tag teaming in and out. No way in hell someone's that dumb to not just point out that it's someone else. Dude really said sealioning.
My point was always: you can criticize a negative aspect of something without it being a criticism of the entire thing. That still holds true.
Sure, it's possible, but no one on lemmy is actually doing that and there's no way anyone is blind enough to not know that.
Behind every "criticism" of Democrats is a fucking Republican. This close to an election? On Lemmy? It's propaganda. Fuck that. Democrats did a good thing. Stop there.
Sure, it's possible, but no one on lemmy is actually doing that
No, the system was the problem, not the people. Criticizing the people is ineffective at best, counterproductive at worst. It's just adding negativity cause someone wants to complain...
They're not being criticized for doing the right thing. They're being criticized for the negative aspect. Many others have answered it, but the way you're framing this is kinda strange.
You'd equally criticize anyone else that you thought had the power to save a drowning man but sat there watching for a while before finally saving him.
Now imagine their replacement actively wants to drown people and for some reason there are people who think both sides are reasonable choices and others are backing the pro-drowning guy.
I'll take the guy who took his time. And yeah, I'm going to call out the critics.
Nobody here is saying that. Do you really think the person who's wondering why it took this long is sitting there saying the Republicans made a reasonable choice to remove net neutrality? Really?
Who cares? They're irrelevant to this. We already disagree with them. We're likely never going to agree with them. They're not criticizing how long it took to reverse Net Neutrality. They're mad that it was reimplemented at all.
What? Who isn't? Again, the action of reimplementing Net Neutrality isn't being criticized. Them taking this long is what's being criticized. Or do I need to ask you to give evidence of left leaning people complaining that Net Neutrality was reimplemented?
You're advocating for just taking whatever you get as long there's someone worse. With that same logic, the guy could wait and watch the drowning guy get bitten by something in the water and get injured trying to save himself and then save him. You'd still accept that no problem huh? You're saying that there's no reason to improve, because at least you're better than the other guy.
Furthermore, everyone I've seen so far has accepted the reason for it taking this long. So again, the way you're framing this is strange.
Congrats. Now the pro-drowning person is in charge.
Fascinating how there's no logical reason for that to happen, but carry on. Doesn't look like you ever cared to actually make a reasonable case for yourself.
You kept insulting people who helped drowning victims, now no one wants to save drowning people, or is scared to do so. So the pro- drowning people faction has won.
Insulting? You're insulted by any kind of criticism huh? Yeah, makes sense. And that's not in any way how this works. That's not at all analogous to what we're talking about anymore.
Because it was a terrible analogy to start. You can't view Democrats in a vacuum.
You just misrepresented what I said and ignored my point. YOU never made a reasonable case. You keep putting Dems down, don't be surprised when fascists win.
Trump is going to win unless people start supporting Biden. Same with congress. Celebrate the wins or the centrists are going to give control to the fascists.
Quote it then. You've done literally nothing to actually show where or how I've done that.
My point was always: you can criticize a negative aspect of something without it being a criticism of the entire thing. That still holds true.
Now you're trying to make this about the Democrats as a whole. You're really not able to think about things in parts huh? I can criticize something taking far too long(which, if you saw my response to another comment, removes pretty much all actual criticism from this specific case) and still accept that they did something good. Merely asking why it took this long isn't, by any means, saying that them doing the thing was wrong. I've said this multiple times already.
Let me know when left leaning persons have started voting, in significant numbers, for Biden merely because they have criticisms for Biden. That's actually asinine. Actually going along with that same logic, do you think Republicans and centrists magically start voting for Democrats if any criticism is levied from their side?
Nah, I'm not stupid. I'm not going to ignore every negative thing that "my side" does just because you think it means the other side will lose. As I said before that's literally giving leeway for them to do absolutely anything they want, as long as they're at least marginally better than Republicans. I've gladly accepted that Net Neutrality is back, but I'm not going to realize it's only back now after years, and ignore it without good reason. At this point, we're not even arguing over the actual Net Neutrality case anymore.
You're fucking blind if you've been missing all of the "don't vote" or "vote 3rd party" propaganda around here.
Soooo, where's the quote my guy? Instead of actually responding with something of worth, you make a piss poor insult that doesn't even make sense. I'm not even sure what part of my comment that's supposed to be in response to, because again, I'm not stupid. Why would any kind of propaganda work on me?
Nevertheless, seeing as you really don't have anything of substance to add, I guess we're done here.
I don't have to fall for your sealioning shit because everyone who's not a fucking troll already knows how bad it is lol
I'm just jumping in to call out your "oh we would never do such a horrible thing as not vote" bullshit. Fuck you, own it at least.
You don't know what sealionong is. 1. It has to be repetitive or be multiple requests 2. It has to be in spite of requests that were previously fulfilled. It's been one request. You said I misrepresented you. So quote where I did. It would literally be you scrolling up and copy/pasting it. It's one simple request. Hell, my comments have been far longer than yours. If anyone's a troll here, it's you. You've yet to make a substantial point.
And I might as well address your other comment in this one too.
The analogy was never about Democrats; it was about being able to criticize anyone while still accepting that they did a good thing overall. You're the dumb one that tried to jump all over the place.
You mean the thing that you brought up? Absolutely nobody said anything about not voting. If this is a troll, at least do something that isn't this blatantly dumb. C'mon, at least make a comment that'll demand more than a quick 2-minute response from me. I clearly have the free time. I miss the days when trolls were at left somewhat intelligent. It's also an apt analogy for the situation it was actually getting used for. The other commenter was able to interact with it perfectly.
But you know what, I said I was done before and now I'm gonna stand by it unless you can actually back up the stupid claims you're making. Quote where I misrepresented you or I guess we really are done.
EDIT: Holy hell! I only now noticed that I'm responding to two different users tag teaming in and out. No way in hell someone's that dumb to not just point out that it's someone else. Dude really said sealioning.
Sure, it's possible, but no one on lemmy is actually doing that and there's no way anyone is blind enough to not know that.
Behind every "criticism" of Democrats is a fucking Republican. This close to an election? On Lemmy? It's propaganda. Fuck that. Democrats did a good thing. Stop there.
I literally did.
Nah. You can't give me a good reason to do so because there isn't.
No, the system was the problem, not the people. Criticizing the people is ineffective at best, counterproductive at worst. It's just adding negativity cause someone wants to complain...