Before anyone says this is spam, I get absolutely zero from Soundcloud plays.
This is the kind of self promotion that Reddit once thrived upon and which made it an interesting place to find user made content. It's fine.
All of those "no self promotion" rules seemed like they came into existence to combat spammers... but really in the end, it just turned into a way to clear the subreddits and make advertising space for big brands instead of the little guys.
"Self promotion" can and often is conversation. Ads are ever just ads. Of course rules and expectations were put in place to push for a divisive paradigm that only "the big guy" can afford to sidestep.
Can't have advertisers' treasured impressions diluted by discourse that happens to involve a specific person's (often) passionate labors. Drink your multinational conglomerate verification can now.
That's indeed how I view this rule as a mod. Self promotion is ok, "excessive" self promotion isn't. I'm aware it is a bit vague, maybe we should explain it better on the sidebar to avoid unnecessary conflict. I'll bring it up on the moderation Discord.
But to make it clearer, my opinion on the matter is that excessive self-promotion amount to the following cases :
Making multiple post about the same topic, multiples time is a shortish amount of time. Like posting once, then reposting the following day if your topic didn't get as much traction as you'd have wished
Promoting things for monetary gains (sponsored links, etc.) without first disclosing it. As an example, I removed a service offering a backgammon online platform, by removing their first topic in order to make sure it was legit, which it seems to have been, not a ads/virus ridden website, which it wasn't, and not paid, which it didn't seem to be. As they happened to have made a new post in the meantime, I did not restore the first one, but did not remove the second one.
Of course that's my opinion of the rules, the other mods may have a different opinion on the matter. I try my best to find a balance in my decisions.
Does Lemmy let you distinguish mod posts now? Neat.
Before anyone says this is spam, I get absolutely zero from Soundcloud plays.
This is the kind of self promotion that Reddit once thrived upon and which made it an interesting place to find user made content. It's fine.
All of those "no self promotion" rules seemed like they came into existence to combat spammers... but really in the end, it just turned into a way to clear the subreddits and make advertising space for big brands instead of the little guys.
"Self promotion" can and often is conversation. Ads are ever just ads. Of course rules and expectations were put in place to push for a divisive paradigm that only "the big guy" can afford to sidestep.
Can't have advertisers' treasured impressions diluted by discourse that happens to involve a specific person's (often) passionate labors. Drink your multinational conglomerate verification can now.
That's indeed how I view this rule as a mod. Self promotion is ok, "excessive" self promotion isn't. I'm aware it is a bit vague, maybe we should explain it better on the sidebar to avoid unnecessary conflict. I'll bring it up on the moderation Discord.
But to make it clearer, my opinion on the matter is that excessive self-promotion amount to the following cases :
Of course that's my opinion of the rules, the other mods may have a different opinion on the matter. I try my best to find a balance in my decisions.
Does Lemmy let you distinguish mod posts now? Neat.