After calls for gun safety, Tennessee votes to arm teachers

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Sigh.

Guns are bad. Cops are bad.

And you can't fight.

Who or what protects you from violence at that point?

Who or what protects you from violence at that point?

Legally, cops are under no obligation to protect you.

Since when do cops protect anyone besides the already powerful?

Right. There's no one in prison for violence against commoners.

That's some after the fact shit. After the commoners were already violated, because the cops won't or can't and definitely have no interest in protecting them.

How many are in prison for violence against the powerful?

Police can't follow everyone around 24/7. Are you saying there are no instances of police protecting commoners from violence?

Also, are you trying to argue that we shouldn't have police to imprison people "after the fact?" You think these people should just get to roam free?

Yeah, that's exactly what I said you fucking genius. Absolutely brilliant.

Why are you getting so mad?

I'm asking you questions. If it's not what you think or what happened, then say so.

If someone goes to jail for violence against me, I haven't been protected from violence. That's literally all I'm saying. Why are you putting random words in my mouth and asking me questions about that shit?

Calm down, again.

Without the threat of imprisonment, can you understand that more people would be willing to commit acts of violence?

Fuck off, all day.

The cops ain't ever protected me from violence and are scarier to me than either the random man (the random man could be a cop, but the cop definitely is) or the bear.

You can't threaten me with violent men into not being afraid of violent men.

Calm down, again.

How come you didn't answer my question?

You can’t threaten me with violent men into not being afraid of violent men.

Right. You threaten them with violent men. Or else, you need to be violent yourself. Which you can't do because you don't own a gun and you can't fight.

You asked who protects you at violence at that point.

It damn sure ain't a cop. Ain't ever been a cop.

In my experience, it's my brother-in-law. His testimony was an important part of a case that put 22 people in jail for actually planning an actual mass murder. Actual bad people, actual plans, actual schedules, actual gear.

He's a cop, one of a few in my family (we're more a firemen/infantry family).

If thats okay with you, I'm going to disagree with your assessment of his character.

So he hasn't been forced out or realized what he's participating in yet. It's not that hard to figure out. If he sticks around it'll become more apparent.