Facebook turns over mother and daughter’s chat history to police resulting in abortion charges
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605
A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.
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She took something that aborted the baby in the third trimester(28 weeks), well after Nebraska's 20 week window for legal abortions. 6.5 months into a 9 month process.
The baby could have survived if delivered, with specialized care, which puts it well outside of the "clump of cells" argument.
And yet, it's still many weeks before the "her body her choice" argument ends.
An argument that, at 6.5mo of gestation, is well outside the moral limits of the vast majority.
That's a bunch of bull, I know it, you know it, everybodys knows it. Vast majority my butt. If people cared that much about babies they wouldn't die by the truck load all around the world because they can't get the care they need.
That's not really a relevant argument. It isn't about whether people care about babies or not. Rather, this is a question of ethics: is it morally wrong to kill a baby if it's still in your body but could live outside your body? If not, why not, assuming that it is morally wrong to kill another human?
If they don't care about babies their opinion doesn't matter about an unborn baby. Period.
Excepting the opinion of the imaginary person you've invented, the question still remains.
Edit: and I would like to add that I do not align myself with conservative politics. I just question the morality of killing a being that would have likely lived if it had been removed from the mother.
I find this argumentation very weird. It is still in her body, it's a part of her body. No one should have these kinds of rights over another person's body. A person who actually is already alive, btw (the woman is also a living person).
Do you think people should be forced to donate organs? I feel this is a better analogy where men are actually included and can't just stand by an watch how others are forced into stuff.
She chose to kill a baby that would have been alive had she given birth to it right there and then - that's what makes this case different to someone getting an abortion at 8 weeks.
By having your carbon footprint, you're causing the death of billions of humans who would be alive in the future.
You're not going to get anywhere making dumb arguments like that.
You're not going to get anywhere making zero arguments.