Egypt pyramids: Scientists may have solved mystery behind construction

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Egypt pyramids: Scientists may have solved mystery behind construction
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Believe it or not, no aliens were likely involved! Just some very smart humans and a massive amount of labor.

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But why would the carving be a lie? What would the benefit be about lying about a lot of people dragging huge pieces of stone on a sledge when a lot of people dragging huge pieces of stone on a sledge would work?

I don't know, my friend. I'm not an archeologist or Egyptologist. I'm just an enthusiast who has read a dozen conflicting theories.

Which of those theories say that large numbers of people did not move large blocks of stone in Egypt and which scientists make those claims?

In other words, no such theories exist.

Believe it or not, it is not my job to prove that you say true things.

It seems like you're out for blood, my friend.

I've cited three academic scientists in this conversation. You're welcome to check them out if you want.

None of your cited scientists make the claim that Egyptians did not move large blocks of stone by pulling them. That was your claim.

Wow, you really got bodied in this debate. This dude came with actual info and you kinda went full debate bro on him.

I'm sure I'll see you picking up some wins in another thread.

His "actual info" didn't prove what he claimed. Did you actually look it up or did you just assume he was telling the truth about it?

I think you might be one of those expert on everything types, it works really well with political garbage, but when you're talking about historical studies of the Egyptian old kingdom that they base on modern calculations of physics using pictographs as a reference... Like it's just sounds silly I guess.

You are arguing for a heterodox interpretation of labor based on pictures drawn by the ruling party that has potentially tens of thousands of people building a giant stone monument, when modern scientists JUST discovered a river they only JUST realized might be there.

Like you just really really need to be right about a field of study that's had like 15 sea changes over the last couple hundred years. It's odd!

So you didn't actually look it up.

Yeah, if that's your take away I guess posting a pictograph and saying "nuh uh" being the crux of your argument on a body of study who's modern history goes back to sprinkling mummy dust on your breakfast makes perfect sense.

Keep up this good!

My takeaway was that the scientists he claim support this idea that they weren't dragged do not say they weren't dragged.

I'm not sure why you think "their claim about what those scientists said isn't true" isn't good enough...

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You're caught up in the argument and not paying attention to what the other person is saying.

Think of it this way, that carving might be totally accurate snd still not represent the whole story. It doesn't even really show that many people, I've worked jobs where for a few days there are hundreds of people it's very impressive and the photos always end up somewhere. This could just be intended to capture one key stage or big event, if it could be combining lots of things into one image to show 'there was a huge workforce' it's not a lie or deception but it's also not the whole story.

Brute force was part of how they did it but it certainly wasn't all of it, and most people who've never pulled a big rope don't really think about how hard it is - plus we take it for granted now but having rope that a hundred men can pull on is a feat of engineering in itself.

We know they used boats to transport them most the way, we know they used complex pullies and levers to get them into position, we know they used work teams and various other methods but none of those really solve all the questions which is why it's such an interesting subject to think about.

And yes I know people get silly and talk about aliens or magic acoustic whistles or whatever but that's not what the person you were talking to was doing, things like wet sand and forgotten infrastructure are realistic and logical ideas.

The person I was talking to said that they probably came up with a type of simple machine which has never been rediscovered since.

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