Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Saints and Sinners Trailer

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This is the only game I'm currently excited for. I was excited for Space Marine 2, until I saw it had a season pass and comes with day 1 DLC if you preorder. I am crossing my fingers that the publisher doesn't somehow weasel a season pass or DLC into this!!!

Why is it that you draw the line at season passes? Does it just mean you pick it up on sale later? Usually a DLC pipeline is the best way to keep your employees working on something productive while the tech folks are setting the ground work on the next project.

Not OP, but happy to provide my perspective. Day one DLC is not DLC but part of the original game that was removed for pay tier and marketing reasons. DLCs or expansion packs like the recent cyberpunk campaign are fine in my book.

That's different than a season pass though, and it's why I didn't question the day 1 DLC, which isn't super common these days, from what I can tell.

I'm just generally pretty skeptical of DLC; I feel like sure, there are some good examples of actual "expansions" but that a lot of DLC is just cynical nickle-and-diming pushed by publishers.

I'm even more skeptical of season passes, which feels like pre-ordering DLC. I don't pre-order anything, and barely keep up with modern gaming, because it feels like disappointment after disappointment.

I also feel a little negative about a developer releasing something and even months before launch having one eye on DLC. I understand it probably works that way in terms of development timelines, and I understand that it can be a good way to keep employees working on something productive, but I can't help but feel like I'm not getting as full a game as I could have.

It's just my opinion tho, and I'm definitely not saying everyone has to agree!

Even BG3 has a day 1 DLC so I wouldn‘t get my hopes up. It‘s basically the Steam equivalent of a collectors edition at this point.

I don't remember that. AFAIK Larian has not made, and will not make any DLC for BG3.

What do you mean?

What do you usually do when you don’t remember information that is freely available? I am talking about the very DLC featured on the Steam page. The one with an item bag that gives you more dialog options. The one that Larian made a big deal about not existing. Guess it worked considering there‘s even gaslit superfans in here refusing to admit it exists because it‘s somehow such a world shattering deal to them.

I don't know why you are so aggressive.

You made a good point, this is actually DLC, I just forgot about it.

I bought BG3 when it was in EA, so I got this DLC automatically, so I never really thought about it recently, I don't even remember seeing it on any shop front.

But now that you mentioned it, I think I thought that they should probably release it for free for everyone at that time. Just like CDPR released some cosmetic 'DLC' for free after launch.

If I had to buy it, I probably wouldn't.

Guy is mad that Larian decided to add the pre-order items (literally some cosmetic items that reference their previous game, soundtrack, some art and DnD style character sheets for the Origins) as an optional bundle for people to buy if they missed out and want them. But "day 1 DLC bad" so it doesn't matter how inoffensive this thing is, hate must flow, game shit, 0/10.

What a terrible unnecessary and emotionally loaded strawman argument. I actually own the DLC and love BG3 just as I love Larian‘s other recent games. You‘re wrong about it being just cosmetics too. And it was Larian who made a HUGE deal about not tolerating any additional, paywalled content when the game had it from day 1. And so you now make a huge deal about how it somehow doesn‘t count because Larian is based or something. Just accept that they lied there just like they lie about shareholders and enjoy the video game like everyone else without treating the devs like your holy absolute.