Yeah. October 7 surely didn't make them start working on that, did it?
Yes because Oct 7 happened apropos of nothing
You understand. It happened apropos, not in order to solve problems.
Use your words
Trying my best as a non-native. Feel free to hate my way of speaking.
Not trying to hate, just not understanding what point you were trying to make.
Everything hamas did was useless for Palestinians. Israel isn't stopping because they have the ability. Hamas doesn't, they won't win in a military fight and hostages are useless for them. They could start doing something proper like releasing hostages (woyild decrease support for Israel hugely) but they won't because they think it would help them survive (not even Palestinians).
Hamas had a chance to increase its abilities over time, but instead they chose to spend resources on useless attacks.
I see. I disagree. Hamas's actions are utterly deplorable but also entirely expected. This is what oppressed people do.
I also think you're wrong that Hamas have done nothing for Palestinians. They've never had as much international support as they do now.
entirely expected
I could say the same about the ground operation.
They've never had as much international support as they do now.
Not sure if that really helps, also the price was too high. In fact, I really doubt they had that scenario in mind.
Given that Hamas wants a Palestinian state, I think that international support for that cause is crucial to them.
Keeping hostages is going to help them with that, surely. (Not)
It is helping, yes. They are literally what they would be exchanging as part of the proposed current peace deal
Someone's argument above stated that Israel was not going to stop even if all hostages are released. Now you are saying that hostages are a real need for a peace deal. It almost seems like someone is running out of reasons to keep them.
We could also argue if a peace deal (aka keeping the hostages) will be worth all the victims. Or we could just admit that the only way hamas is ever going to use hostages is to try to keep themselves alive.
Yeah. October 7 surely didn't make them start working on that, did it?
Yes because Oct 7 happened apropos of nothing
You understand. It happened apropos, not in order to solve problems.
Use your words
Trying my best as a non-native. Feel free to hate my way of speaking.
Not trying to hate, just not understanding what point you were trying to make.
Everything hamas did was useless for Palestinians. Israel isn't stopping because they have the ability. Hamas doesn't, they won't win in a military fight and hostages are useless for them. They could start doing something proper like releasing hostages (woyild decrease support for Israel hugely) but they won't because they think it would help them survive (not even Palestinians).
Hamas had a chance to increase its abilities over time, but instead they chose to spend resources on useless attacks.
I see. I disagree. Hamas's actions are utterly deplorable but also entirely expected. This is what oppressed people do. I also think you're wrong that Hamas have done nothing for Palestinians. They've never had as much international support as they do now.
I could say the same about the ground operation.
Not sure if that really helps, also the price was too high. In fact, I really doubt they had that scenario in mind.
Given that Hamas wants a Palestinian state, I think that international support for that cause is crucial to them.
Keeping hostages is going to help them with that, surely. (Not)
It is helping, yes. They are literally what they would be exchanging as part of the proposed current peace deal
Someone's argument above stated that Israel was not going to stop even if all hostages are released. Now you are saying that hostages are a real need for a peace deal. It almost seems like someone is running out of reasons to keep them.
We could also argue if a peace deal (aka keeping the hostages) will be worth all the victims. Or we could just admit that the only way hamas is ever going to use hostages is to try to keep themselves alive.