Latin American countries refuse to see Zelenskyy at summit with EU

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Latin American countries refuse to see Zelenskyy at summit with EU
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From an article that neither mentions the US or does the joint statement by the Latin Americans countries mention the US.

So yeah, maybe go back and read the article. Bringing the US up is conjecture unsubstantiated by the article. And weren’t you big on o Lu focusing on the article just a few comments ago?

I get you struggle not to tie everything back in the United States but American exceptionalism is a fairly toxic idea.

Which of the countries in Latin America haven't had governments flipped by US intervention? I'll wait for you to count.

Case and point. EU nations (aka Not the US) asking for support for an eu nation (which did not have anything to do with US coups in Latin America) is to you about the US.

You can’t even imagine Latin American countires having issues with Europeans treatment of them, like the article states. The response text but up colonial reparations.

The US is not the center of the world. Countries have motivations that don’t factor the US.

For someone who doesn’t like the US they have gotten deep in your head.

The US is the center of the West's response to Russia's invasion. That's indisputable.

Which doesn’t make make them the center of latin American reasoning. Geopolitics is more complicated than that. NOr is their anything in the article to imply anything of the sort.

Geopolitics is centered around the big superpowers (the US, the ex-USSR, and China). Claiming otherwise is silly.

Big powers like the entire EU? You know. Who the article was about.

The EU has never been considered a power of the same scale as the US or the ex-USSR.

And yet is much more directly impacted by, and involved in, the situation in Ukraine and you know, it was a direct exchange between those two parties and referencing those two parties and not the US.

You’ve got a bad case of American on the brain. You hate the topic but can’t change the subject.

I must be forgetting how NATO gets funded...

You definitely are since the US only pays about 16% of NATOS budget. Which is a smaller percentage than what the US pays to the UN peace keeping forces.

You…..do know that NATOs budget is not the same things as NATO combined military spending right?

And also irrelevant since the EU is not NATO. They share members they do not have identical membership.

Take a look at a map of NATO. Now take a look at a map of EU aid to Ukraine. The only real non-NATO members of the EU are, what? Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, and Serbia (and a few microstates)?

Oh, would you look at that! Guess who hasn't been providing significant military aid to Ukraine. No guns and no ammunition. (In other news, even China has provided Ukraine with humanitarian aid...)

This is a proxy war between the US and Russia. The only significant aid from non-NATO states has been from, what, Pakistan (who oppose anything India supports lol), Australia (who are otherwise aligned with the US through ANZUS/AUKUS), Israel (do I even need to say anything?), and Japan (who are obviously aligned with the US)?

So find a single quote of the Latin American countires opposing the text as written had a thing to do with nato. You can’t.

You do realize the majority of these exact same states (including India, who you listed as supporting the war. What?) have already condemned the war at the UN. So no, it’s not as simple as pro us and anti us. Countires do indeed have interests beyond america or Russia and indeed do have bilateral concerns.

Just because you can’t see the world through anything but the US lense doesn’t mean the rest of the world can’t. And just because you think Latin America should have every action they take be shaped by their relationship with the u tied states doesn’t mean they think that.

So unless you can actually put up some evidence rather than your wild conjecture I’m afraid I’m done here.

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