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Hell yeah brother, no guns no police!! Hold up someone just stole my car and is extorting my family.. Someone help plz :(

yeah, if there's no cops around who's gonna show up 4 hours late and shoot my dog after I report a robbery??

Is your dog on a leash or put in a kennel? Why are you reporting a robbery? You don't need the police man!

Because cops routinely get anywhere in time to stop a crime. That's one of the biggest flaws with the 'cops make safe' argument. They only work as a deterrent to crime if they're actually there right when the crime happens. The only time they show up with any expediency is when there's money to be protected.

Also, victim blame more.

Hold up someone just stole my car and is extorting my family

Someone like the police

You are right, we should go somewhere where there is no police.

No we should make it so that there's no police where we're at.

You are damn right! I can take what I want and kill whoever...I don't even have to bury the bodies..No one around to stop me from changing towns every couple days and rinse/repeat. Not because I'm struggling but I enjoy killing..Less people means less carbon emissions, amirite?

You sound disturbed, mate.

I've been a lot of different places including prison and I know the way people act when there is no law. Maybe I am considered disturbed because I can't unsee things that I've seen.Decent people, including you, would do the same or become prey. People are animals after all. 😇

Sounds wild. One wonders how humanity survived for thousands of years until police forces were created last century...

I'm guessing you never studied history huh? Murder, rape and theft was an everyday occurrence. What do you think inspired all those westerns? You ever hear what happened to the Native Americans? How old are you matey? About 16? 17?

"Those Native Americans"? You think they did it to themselves? You think police would have protected them from genocide? OMG!

Murder, rape and theft was an everyday occurrence.

Wat? You think human structures like medieval villages or prehistoric tribes were raping and killing each other daily internally?

WHO IS WATCHING THE WATCHMEN??!!!

Police are largely a gang of thugs, they serve Capital, not people.

Solving root causes makes police far less important.

So what do you propose for solving root causes and enforcing regulations? You have a Disney movie I could watch?

Expanding social programs and employing social workers instead of police for mental health crisis events.

Crime happens because of poverty and desparation for the most part, not because some people are born evil.

Socialism would eliminate the biggest sources of poverty.

What type crime are you talking about? Petty theft? 🤣 Social workers, projects and food stamps?? This movie sucks ass

More Zach Snyder;

Marxists argue that the economic system of capitalism itself causes crime. The whole system is based on the exploitation of the working class by the ruling class, leading to the ever-increasing wealth of one class and ever-increasing poverty of the other. source

Kewl article. So your fantasy societies have no crime therefore no need for police. I'll make sure to bookmark that laterz

Unlike the fantasy we live in now, where the police are not obligated to protect you?

The U.S. Supreme Court has also ruled that police have no specific obligation to protect. In its 1989 decision in DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, the justices ruled that a social services department had no duty to protect a young boy from his abusive father. In 2005'sCastle Rock v. Gonzales*, *a woman sued the police for failing to protect her from her husband after he violated a restraining order and abducted and killed their three children. Justices said the police had no such duty.

You are right, both of those cases were directly related to crimes caused by capitalist societies. Police were never intended to protect you, only to enforce laws and arrest those who break those laws, they aren't hired bodyguards or private investigators.

I mean, most individual crime comes from poor socioeconomic conditions. People don't feel the need to steal shit, for instance, if they aren't starving. Scarcity (be it real, physical scarcity of goods, or a perceived scarcity in, say, opportunity) creates motive for crime. Reduce scarcity, reduce crime.