Sure, there absolutely are bad faith arguers but there is also a significant slice of the population that is deathly afraid that Biden will pull a fucking Hillary. He has worked with the DNC to effectively eliminate any other candidates from entering the primaries and if his fucking hubris gets Trump elected he should bear all the blame.
What other candidates were trying to enter the primaries?
You mean which candidates publicly announced an intent to challenge a sitting president in a primary and torpedo their political career?
So then how did he keep them from running? You need to choose a lane and stick with it. Either he purposefully stopped them from running, or they chose not to because of Status-quo.
He didn't invite challengers or step back in advance of the primary. There is such a thing as soft power and he used it to make sure there wasn't a real primary.
When has any candidate ever invited challengers?
Candidates don't "step back", challengers step up. If nobody wants to because the candidate appears certain to win the primary, don't blame the candidate.
He doesn’t dictate the who runs. You said yourself. Career suicide, remember?
We’re done with this now.
Yea, that's an immensely naive view of the world. It's got real "bootstraps" energy: "Why don't those politicians who are trying to enact change just get ostracized from their party and the funding base while facing up against a multi-billion dollar political machine that will grind them into dust and then primary them for their disloyalty at the earliest opportunity."
You're right. They're absolute cowards. They should make more principled stances that hamstring them from actually improving lives - its what Marjorie Taylor Greene would do and we love her. /s
Chose a lane man. When you have, come back and we can discuss this. Otherwise, as I said…. We’re done here.
I did chose a lane - you're just engaging in bad faith conversation tactics. You consider my position to be invalid out of an apparent misled belief that I'm just trolling and therefore are just repeating dead lines to shut down the conversation.
I emigrated up to Canada so I'm fine but my mother is a retiree in the US and a staunch Biden supporter. The debate has her terrified that she'll need to pack up and leave because, to most of us, Biden looks incapable of winning this election. I voted for Hillary even after she used the DNC to muscle out Sanders but she was a deeply flawed candidate and she lost. Biden seems to be on the same trajectory, an establishment darling that is unpopular and struggling to excite the voting base.
Whichever Dem is on the ballot in November is getting my vote but it really looks like Biden is going to fuck us all and get Trump elected again.
Not who you were replying to, but they're out in fucking numbers today aren't they?
Jesus Christ it's like the have a whole troll farm dedicated to Lemmy.
And they can't come up with a better argument than "BiDeN oLd Hur Hur"
Just FYI dude, I'm a real person and accusations of astroturfing are completely unproductive to actually having a conversation.
You added absolutely nothing of value to this thread.
Yep. They’re usually quiet a day or so after something happens, then the get their marching orders to go forth and sew discontent via misinformation. There’s also a shit-ton of vote manipulation happening.
Sure, there absolutely are bad faith arguers but there is also a significant slice of the population that is deathly afraid that Biden will pull a fucking Hillary. He has worked with the DNC to effectively eliminate any other candidates from entering the primaries and if his fucking hubris gets Trump elected he should bear all the blame.
What other candidates were trying to enter the primaries?
You mean which candidates publicly announced an intent to challenge a sitting president in a primary and torpedo their political career?
So then how did he keep them from running? You need to choose a lane and stick with it. Either he purposefully stopped them from running, or they chose not to because of Status-quo.
He didn't invite challengers or step back in advance of the primary. There is such a thing as soft power and he used it to make sure there wasn't a real primary.
When has any candidate ever invited challengers?
Candidates don't "step back", challengers step up. If nobody wants to because the candidate appears certain to win the primary, don't blame the candidate.
He doesn’t dictate the who runs. You said yourself. Career suicide, remember?
We’re done with this now.
Yea, that's an immensely naive view of the world. It's got real "bootstraps" energy: "Why don't those politicians who are trying to enact change just get ostracized from their party and the funding base while facing up against a multi-billion dollar political machine that will grind them into dust and then primary them for their disloyalty at the earliest opportunity."
You're right. They're absolute cowards. They should make more principled stances that hamstring them from actually improving lives - its what Marjorie Taylor Greene would do and we love her. /s
Chose a lane man. When you have, come back and we can discuss this. Otherwise, as I said…. We’re done here.
I did chose a lane - you're just engaging in bad faith conversation tactics. You consider my position to be invalid out of an apparent misled belief that I'm just trolling and therefore are just repeating dead lines to shut down the conversation.
I emigrated up to Canada so I'm fine but my mother is a retiree in the US and a staunch Biden supporter. The debate has her terrified that she'll need to pack up and leave because, to most of us, Biden looks incapable of winning this election. I voted for Hillary even after she used the DNC to muscle out Sanders but she was a deeply flawed candidate and she lost. Biden seems to be on the same trajectory, an establishment darling that is unpopular and struggling to excite the voting base.
Whichever Dem is on the ballot in November is getting my vote but it really looks like Biden is going to fuck us all and get Trump elected again.
Not who you were replying to, but they're out in fucking numbers today aren't they?
Jesus Christ it's like the have a whole troll farm dedicated to Lemmy.
And they can't come up with a better argument than "BiDeN oLd Hur Hur"
Just FYI dude, I'm a real person and accusations of astroturfing are completely unproductive to actually having a conversation.
You added absolutely nothing of value to this thread.
Yep. They’re usually quiet a day or so after something happens, then the get their marching orders to go forth and sew discontent via misinformation. There’s also a shit-ton of vote manipulation happening.
We all need to be calling this shit out.