Nato summit: Ukraine on 'irreversible path' to membership

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Nato summit: Ukraine on 'irreversible path' to membership
bbc.com

Nato members have pledged their support for an "irreversible path" to future membership for Ukraine, as well as more aid.

While a formal timeline for it to join the military alliance was not agreed at a summit in Washington DC, the military alliance's 32 members said they had "unwavering" support for Ukraine's war effort.

Nato has also announced further integration with Ukraine's military and members have committed €40bn ($43.3bn, £33.7bn) in aid in the next year, including F-16 fighter jets and air defence support.

The bloc's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said: "Support to Ukraine is not charity - it is in our own security interest."

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It didn't start there.

Where did it start?

It started when the USSR collapsed and the purely defensive pact that was created solely to fight off the USSR wasn't dissolved with it. It became an organization looking for a purpose.

And Russia has not been an aggressor since... "please list all russian backed invasions since 1990"

The US is objectively more of an aggressor. Where's the NATO equivalent for fighting them off? Oh right, dismantled, stomped on, and now taking victory laps around it.

Where’s the NATO equivalent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization
Headquartered in Moscow.

Now think for yourself why Ukraine would rather protect itself from being invaded by Russia than by the US.

Because the US has the means to work behind the scenes. Invasions are a crude tool which can be avoided when you can simply infiltrate the country with agents paying people off from within the country. Of course, this requires a sophisticated intelligence apparatus and isn't possible for most countries.

Jeeeeeeesus Christ you're going to win a gold at the mental gymnastics Olympics.

Tell me, what do you think the CIA does? Are you aware of their history? Do you think they just sit around with their thumb up their ass now? Sorry to see that you consider applying basic logic a mental workout.

That's every god damn intelligence agency in the world.

Keep feeding the troll and there'll be troll shit all over the lawn.

True, I shouldn't feed the troll who thinks all intelligence agencies are on the same level as the CIA.

Wait. You actually...

I'm sorry if I was rude, but self-deception is a process of denying or rationalizing away the relevance, significance, or importance of opposing evidence and logical argument. Self-deception involves convincing oneself of a truth (or lack of truth) so that one does not reveal any self-knowledge of the deception.

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Im no defender of the US but they are not actively expanding into neighbouring territory. And there is nothing stopping Russia approaching Canada and Mexico about a military alliance, except the reality of the how absurd it is.

There is no need to overtly expand into a neighbouring territory when you can already exert sufficient influence with "soft" power. Russia doesn't have the means to pay off Canada or Mexico to switch sides like the US does with Ukraine.

That soft power being mutual growth and societal progress?

Russia cant offer similar because they are a cancer.

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