Biden calls for justice after footage released of police killing Black woman

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Biden calls for justice after footage released of police killing Black woman
theguardian.com

Joe Biden has called on Congress to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, moments after shocking police video was released showing an Illinois officer fatally shooting Sonya Massey after she called police fearing a home intruder.

In his first public statement since dropping his bid for re-election, Biden said the shooting of Massey, a 36-year-old Black woman, by white Sangamon county sheriff’s deputy Sean Grayson, in her home in Springfield, after a dispute over a pot of boiling water, “reminds us that all too often Black Americans face fears for their safety in ways many of the rest of us do not”.

Biden, who is recovering from Covid at his home in Delaware, said Massey, “a beloved mother, friend, daughter and young Black woman … should be alive today”.

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No, I said the civil rights laws exist, making the most egregious behavior harder to get away with.

I'd tell you to ask George Floyd if things have gotten better. Or Breonna Taylor. Or Philando Castile. Or Sonya Massey. Except none of them can tell you anymore.

There are no "good apple" cops. None.

No, I said the civil rights laws exist, making the most egregious behavior harder to get away with.

... Again, that doesn't make sense. Do the laws make their behavior better, yes or no?

Because once again you're saying they do, but somehow they're not as well. Schrodinger's ACAB.

Here, have some literature about past, current, and future reformations and best practices. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0002716219889328

Have some on churn: https://www.npr.org/2021/06/24/1009578809/cops-say-low-morale-and-department-scrutiny-are-driving-them-away-from-the-job

Police killings not being statistically higher or lower between 2013 and 2016: https://policebrutalitycenter.org/police-brutality/statistics/

Police shootings of black people and unarmed lowering in 2020: https://www.vox.com/2020/6/2/21276472/police-killing-statistics-african-american

Little hard data to show that policing hasn't improved since the civil rights era but I have a hard time believing differently: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/long-painful-history-police-brutality-in-the-us-180964098/

You're showing how they're all bad apples and you don't even realize it.

No, it just sounds like you're only useful to certain people lol.

I'm not useful to anyone. Why are you making this about me when it's about cops?

It was a joke about being a useful idiot lol.

Cool, there are still no good apple cops no matter what your insult "joke" was about.

So you don't even understand how the spoiling ethylene analogy works lol.

Either way, I hope you reflect today and stop making yourself useful to bad actors by sowing discord and division.

I wasn't interested in your analogy. You take the ludicrous position that there being fewer crimes by racist cops has some meaning that there are somehow good cops now, not the fact that laws were absolutely necessary to stop their behavior. And it still didn't stop it anywhere near as much as it should have. And if those laws were gone, it would go back to being as bad as it was.

I don't have to sow discord and division, we have an entire group of uniformed people in blue who do that just fine themselves when they do things like shoot an unarmed black woman in her home. You know, this event you seem hell-bent to use to tell us all about how there are good cops.

Oh I understand. It doesn't make you not wrong both literally and metaphorically in one of the worst ways possible which is frustratingly sad in how it's completely antithetical to your goal. But I understand.

You do know that just declaring someone to be wrong doesn't make them wrong, right? You are not the arbiter of reality.

True. Sauce, logic, and objective reality is. Which I provided.

You have provided anecdotal hogwash based on feels making reals just as brainwashed through doomscrolling media as some of the worst MAGA Republicans I've ever met.

People can understand you. They can even agree heavily. That doesn't make it true lol.

You didn't provide "objective reality." You said that civil rights laws mean cops aren't as racist anymore, which is hilarious, because if cops weren't racist, *we wouldn't have to keep using civil rights laws to hopefully punish them for killing black people.

This seems to be a lot more about you excusing cops for killing black people.

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