Honestly, I’d settle for a good one. Gay or not. Because a person’s sexuality and preferences are entirely irrelevant to one’s ability to be a fair and hard working representative.
Let's not pretend that people would refuse to vote for a gay candidate.
Whether we personally consider it an issue it has likely massively hurt their prospects as a politician.
Also representation is really important. Especially for younger people.
I’ve never in my life voted for someone because they were a heterosexual. I vote based on their track record. When we stop giving a shit about what people do with their genitals, we will be better off. We don’t need gender identity representation in our politics- we just need someone that will treat all people as equals- and enact policy that reflects this.
Again you might not but plenty of people would. I would say it's a pretty large crowd as well.
Also sexuality has nothing to do with gender.
We’re not talking about gender, we’re talking about homosexuality. That has everything to do with genital preference.
They said gender identity.
When we stop giving a shit about what people do with their genitals, we will be better off.
(From the people who brought you “JD Vance fucks couches”.)
Unless he himself has been saying that, you're painting with too broad a brush. We aren't all accountable for what our political allies do. Thank fuck. There are plenty of people on the left with more enthusiasm than ability to reason and communicate in public.
And I say that appreciating the irony that I will hold republicans accountable for allowing Nazis in their midst. But the difference to me is they don't speak out. Some of us will call out the left on bullshit (e.g. Gaza) even if we share similar ultimate goals. I see very few on the right ever do that.
Also, Vance fucks furniture is sort of obvious humor that no one takes really seriously, anyway, so probably not worth tackling that as a serious subject.
When we stop giving a shit about what people do with their genitals,
This is not how international politics work. Can you think for a second of the optics on the world stage? The us isn’t some international flyover state equivalent like Iceland. If Harris steps down and Buttigeg needs to meet with someone in the Middle East how do you think that meeting is going to go over? The US is a big fish and this is like, unprecedented for a world power this huge.
I imagine it would go something like this:
Hello Mr President welcome to my country.
Exactly. It would be an incredible way to push forward lgbt+ rights. I'd prefer a candidate with good politics, but I'd be lying if I didn't like the idea of how it would ruffle bigots... But Harris's main goal is to get elected.
Ok, fine I’ll give you that totally unlikely outcome. Pete then follows up with the question: Your nation executes homosexuals but decided to let me live, are you going to reconsider your policy on executing them?
How do you think that response will blow over? This is an unstable region with extreme hatred towards anything lgtbq. Very unlikely they’d even invite him to discuss any oil deals.
Ooh! Is it Fantastic Fiction Story Time?! Ok, my turn!
Then, President Buttigieg produces flowers from thin air with a "Tah-Dah!", handing them to the foreign leader. The leader then embraces the president and everyone cheers!
Fiction is fun!
it has likely massively hurt their prospects as a politician
Or, the complete opposite.
Do you think there’s any way Pete, the mayor of a town of 100,000 people, would have become a national presidential candidate if he wasn’t gay?
Absolutely. Hes one of the best communicators in the party. Dude is a fantastic surrogate. Especially when you send him into unfriendly territory. I'm not going to say he's the right pick for VP (I have some problems with his policy background), but acting like he's only where he is because of his sexuality is fucking stupid.
...that's kinda what he's saying. He's saying there's enough people who agree with this now that the political backlash to it will be a drop of hate in a huge bucket of sensible sentiments.
Is america ready for a competent president? Will voters accept an adequate candidate? Its hard to say, without knowing first which divisive and inflammatory categories they can be sorted into.
Honestly, I’d settle for a good one. Gay or not. Because a person’s sexuality and preferences are entirely irrelevant to one’s ability to be a fair and hard working representative.
Let's not pretend that people would refuse to vote for a gay candidate.
Whether we personally consider it an issue it has likely massively hurt their prospects as a politician.
Also representation is really important. Especially for younger people.
I’ve never in my life voted for someone because they were a heterosexual. I vote based on their track record. When we stop giving a shit about what people do with their genitals, we will be better off. We don’t need gender identity representation in our politics- we just need someone that will treat all people as equals- and enact policy that reflects this.
Again you might not but plenty of people would. I would say it's a pretty large crowd as well.
Also sexuality has nothing to do with gender.
We’re not talking about gender, we’re talking about homosexuality. That has everything to do with genital preference.
They said gender identity.
(From the people who brought you “JD Vance fucks couches”.)
Unless he himself has been saying that, you're painting with too broad a brush. We aren't all accountable for what our political allies do. Thank fuck. There are plenty of people on the left with more enthusiasm than ability to reason and communicate in public.
And I say that appreciating the irony that I will hold republicans accountable for allowing Nazis in their midst. But the difference to me is they don't speak out. Some of us will call out the left on bullshit (e.g. Gaza) even if we share similar ultimate goals. I see very few on the right ever do that.
Also, Vance fucks furniture is sort of obvious humor that no one takes really seriously, anyway, so probably not worth tackling that as a serious subject.
This is not how international politics work. Can you think for a second of the optics on the world stage? The us isn’t some international flyover state equivalent like Iceland. If Harris steps down and Buttigeg needs to meet with someone in the Middle East how do you think that meeting is going to go over? The US is a big fish and this is like, unprecedented for a world power this huge.
I imagine it would go something like this:
Hello Mr President welcome to my country.
Exactly. It would be an incredible way to push forward lgbt+ rights. I'd prefer a candidate with good politics, but I'd be lying if I didn't like the idea of how it would ruffle bigots... But Harris's main goal is to get elected.
Ok, fine I’ll give you that totally unlikely outcome. Pete then follows up with the question: Your nation executes homosexuals but decided to let me live, are you going to reconsider your policy on executing them?
How do you think that response will blow over? This is an unstable region with extreme hatred towards anything lgtbq. Very unlikely they’d even invite him to discuss any oil deals.
Ooh! Is it Fantastic Fiction Story Time?! Ok, my turn!
Then, President Buttigieg produces flowers from thin air with a "Tah-Dah!", handing them to the foreign leader. The leader then embraces the president and everyone cheers!
Fiction is fun!
Or, the complete opposite.
Do you think there’s any way Pete, the mayor of a town of 100,000 people, would have become a national presidential candidate if he wasn’t gay?
Absolutely. Hes one of the best communicators in the party. Dude is a fantastic surrogate. Especially when you send him into unfriendly territory. I'm not going to say he's the right pick for VP (I have some problems with his policy background), but acting like he's only where he is because of his sexuality is fucking stupid.
...that's kinda what he's saying. He's saying there's enough people who agree with this now that the political backlash to it will be a drop of hate in a huge bucket of sensible sentiments.
Is america ready for a competent president? Will voters accept an adequate candidate? Its hard to say, without knowing first which divisive and inflammatory categories they can be sorted into.