How do you make someone understand that being drafted by force and ordered to invade another country is not a good thing?

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It's amazing the shit rich old people can convince poor young people to die saying

edit: meant to say 'rich young people on computers thousands of miles away cheering on other people's deaths'

I invite all of you chickenhawk nazi lovers to go die charging a trench in the place of someone who doesn't support your cause and doesn't want to die.

What do you mean by nazi? And wtf is a chickenhawk?

I proudly went through conscription in Finland, because we know what Russia was capable of.

So who are these Nazis you speak of?

You're from Finland and you have to ask where the nazis are?

Hey now, the Finns dropped their Nazi symbology way back in… four years ago.

Since you're very fond of listing links and sources, I'll show you how argumenting is actually done. (Since your link lists were nothing but "I hope you never read any of these because they're not actually even related and I can't come up with an actual argument.)

You misuse the word "symbology".

Likeness in symbols representing different things aren't two different things using the same symbology, they're the same symbol which represents a different thing.

We've been using the Swastika since the Iron Age. When did they form the Nazi party again?

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakaristi_Suomessa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_use_of_the_swastika_in_the_early_20th_century

Awkward how you pretend to be so knowledgable, yet make these cringe "arguments", because I made you upset by asking you whether you're pro-Russian or not. Something which you absolutely refuse to answer. Weird, huh?

I don't, but apparently you do.

So who exactly are you calling nazis?

Literal nazis who wear nazi symbols on their persons and anyone who positively associates with them or supports them

I don’t, but apparently you do.

Your trash talk is incoherent. You don't have to ask but I do? My dimwitted child, you are the one asking.

You're the one who said "you chickenhawk nazi lovers."

It's not unreasonable to ask for elaboration for such an incoherent attempt at an insult.

Just because it went over your head (how???) doesn't make it incoherent.

Do you even know what that word means or are you just mad I used it on you appropriately?

Since I very clearly expressed I've gone through conscription, enjoyed it, and am currently a NCO in the Finnish reserves, very willing to defend my country militarily, but you assert you're "using the term appropriately", I have to deduce that you're probably using the gay slang term "chicken hawk", meaning you're assuming I'm gay, I'm an "older male", and into twinks?

Also, then you agree that nazis are either actual neonazis, or possibly the current horrid fascists like Putler and Netanyahu.

I'm pro-Palestine and pro-Ukrainian, mostly straight, not even in my 40's and in the Finnish reserves, and I'm definitely not an actual bird, so... in what was your asinine babbling "appropriate"?