How do you make someone understand that being drafted by force and ordered to invade another country is not a good thing?

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No argument for the draft is valid.

Would you rather see Ukraine fall to Russia than implement a draft?

Loaded question but yes

Why ought countries risk their existence to avoid a draft? The government already dictates other matters of life and death. Forgoing a draft would force bigger permanent militaries and not allow for some defense in depth strategies.

Because we're better than that.

A state is just a legal entity. The nation and its residents are infinitely more important.

How about WWII? Should the allies have been significantly weaker and prolonged how long the Nazis were in power to avoid a draft?

The possible benefits of something unethical doesn't justify doing it.

I'd hold a lesser of two evils justify it. The government already dictates what you need to do. Is it the commanded act of killing people that you think takes it too far?

a lesser of two evils justufies it

Again, no it doesnt.

the government already dictates what you need to do

what? no?

is the command act of killing people that you think takes it too far?

any forced labor takes it too far.

They force jury duty, taxes, traffic laws, and sometimes public service or jail time. Those are all forced labor.

The difference is that the need for a jury of your peers is in the constitution.

Traffic laws are not forced labor. Nor is jail time, that's a punishment.

I'm starting to think you have no idea what you're talking about.

They dictate what you do and don't do. Taxes take a portion of your time as well since you need to work longer. I didn't see how it's categorically different. Just a difference of extent.

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