That’s not really my place to say something like that. When you spend literal YEARS building something on someone else’s platform, it takes a bit of time to let go.
I personally had a hard time adjusting to the idea of losing Apollo, an app I spent thousands of hours using. I can’t imagine having to let go of a massive community you’ve worked so hard to build.
I think they are trying to come up with an exit strategy to another platform. They like Lemmy World but don’t like the fractured idea of each instance having the same name for a community.
In reality, it’s just an excuse to put off the inevitable. They really don’t want to rebuild, so it’s all or nothing and a tough thing to let go.
I think they are trying to come up with an exit strategy to another platform.
The more they put this off and delay and delay the less likely they are to gain any traction of users to move, if anything I think it's just an excuse to not move as you said later.
In reality, it’s just an excuse to put off the inevitable. They really don’t want to rebuild, so it’s all or nothing and a tough thing to let go.
Truth is they don't want to leave reddit and most moderators had their bluff called about the situation. I'm not saying they're power hungry or spez was right but they don't want to leave because it's too difficult for them to start over and build communities or they don't have the skills to do it. Some might dislike the lack of prestige as well who knows. However, they're sticking around clearly because they don't want to leave and deep down inside they have hope that something will change and they will go back to the old normal, some will come to accept the new normal and change their minds.
I've personally been down this route before where I invested thousands of man hours into communities but sometimes you just need to know it's time to move on close up shop and do something else, I just don't think most of the people who moderate on Reddit have the stomach for it.
Most mods on Reddit are not community builders. They’re queue slaves.
I mean that may or may not be the case, I can't speak for all of them but it's definitely a challenge to build a new community from scratch and it's a lot of work.
It's not for everyone and 99% of people who say they can or could do it are full of shit.
They like Lemmy World but don’t like the fractured idea of each instance having the same name for a community.
I like that idea. On reddit, if someone made the subreddit r/nonbinary and they were a transphobe, there was nothing you could do except create r/truenonbinary or r/nonbinarytransaccepting or whatever else. r/nonbinary belonged to a bigot forever. On the fediverse, you have to compete with platforms that have the same name as you, but might be more tolerant or have a better user experience. You don't have ownership over a name which you can leverage against others
That's a really great point. I'm hoping that in the future there will be something like community federation on top of server federation, so that friendly communities that are very similar (not just in name) can be joined together to share content and users and blacklist unfriendly communities. Even if this was something that was done on the user/app side, rather than a real Lemmy feature it would make it easier to follow multiple similar communities, and it would be less of an issue to have the same community existing on multiple servers.
They like Lemmy World but don’t like the fractured idea of each instance having the same name for a community.
Ahh, steer your mod friends away from lemmy.world. They're having problems right now because of their high visibility (biggest instance). They're having issues like server overload, DDOS attacks, bot attacks. Recommend an instance that's not heavily loaded and regionally close.
People that don't understand the Fediverse architecture can have trouble with it. Explain it's not the instance that matters other than how well it performs locally. The content is all there for everyone to interact with regardless of the instance.
Also explain that communities may share the same prefix name but people commonly make the mistake of thinking they are two communities with the same name. They are not. The full name for a community includes the instance that hosts it. For example !fediverse@lemmy.ml is not the same community as !fediverse@lemmy.world even though they share the same prefix name.
I will not be taking your advice. You should have seen Reddit when they had to deal with a huge influx of Digg users at the beginning. It was just as bad.
I think they have done a really good job dealing with all of this. It’s growing pains. They need time to get things nailed down.
In the meantime, there’s benefits of creating your communities on the largest instance. That’s why I created mine here on Lemmy World.
That’s not really my place to say something like that. When you spend literal YEARS building something on someone else’s platform, it takes a bit of time to let go.
I personally had a hard time adjusting to the idea of losing Apollo, an app I spent thousands of hours using. I can’t imagine having to let go of a massive community you’ve worked so hard to build.
I think they are trying to come up with an exit strategy to another platform. They like Lemmy World but don’t like the fractured idea of each instance having the same name for a community.
In reality, it’s just an excuse to put off the inevitable. They really don’t want to rebuild, so it’s all or nothing and a tough thing to let go.
Truth is they don't want to leave reddit and most moderators had their bluff called about the situation. I'm not saying they're power hungry or spez was right but they don't want to leave because it's too difficult for them to start over and build communities or they don't have the skills to do it. Some might dislike the lack of prestige as well who knows. However, they're sticking around clearly because they don't want to leave and deep down inside they have hope that something will change and they will go back to the old normal, some will come to accept the new normal and change their minds.
I've personally been down this route before where I invested thousands of man hours into communities but sometimes you just need to know it's time to move on close up shop and do something else, I just don't think most of the people who moderate on Reddit have the stomach for it.
Most mods on Reddit are not community builders. They’re queue slaves.
I mean that may or may not be the case, I can't speak for all of them but it's definitely a challenge to build a new community from scratch and it's a lot of work.
It's not for everyone and 99% of people who say they can or could do it are full of shit.
I like that idea. On reddit, if someone made the subreddit r/nonbinary and they were a transphobe, there was nothing you could do except create r/truenonbinary or r/nonbinarytransaccepting or whatever else. r/nonbinary belonged to a bigot forever. On the fediverse, you have to compete with platforms that have the same name as you, but might be more tolerant or have a better user experience. You don't have ownership over a name which you can leverage against others
That's a really great point. I'm hoping that in the future there will be something like community federation on top of server federation, so that friendly communities that are very similar (not just in name) can be joined together to share content and users and blacklist unfriendly communities. Even if this was something that was done on the user/app side, rather than a real Lemmy feature it would make it easier to follow multiple similar communities, and it would be less of an issue to have the same community existing on multiple servers.
Ahh, steer your mod friends away from lemmy.world. They're having problems right now because of their high visibility (biggest instance). They're having issues like server overload, DDOS attacks, bot attacks. Recommend an instance that's not heavily loaded and regionally close.
People that don't understand the Fediverse architecture can have trouble with it. Explain it's not the instance that matters other than how well it performs locally. The content is all there for everyone to interact with regardless of the instance.
Also explain that communities may share the same prefix name but people commonly make the mistake of thinking they are two communities with the same name. They are not. The full name for a community includes the instance that hosts it. For example !fediverse@lemmy.ml is not the same community as !fediverse@lemmy.world even though they share the same prefix name.
I will not be taking your advice. You should have seen Reddit when they had to deal with a huge influx of Digg users at the beginning. It was just as bad.
I think they have done a really good job dealing with all of this. It’s growing pains. They need time to get things nailed down.
In the meantime, there’s benefits of creating your communities on the largest instance. That’s why I created mine here on Lemmy World.