Not entirely true… the American Android users care about it; Apple users will still default to the superior iMessage as opposed to the inconsistent carrier dependant RCS; rest of the world will use geo-preferred third party messaging app that also offer consistent experience between carriers.
“Buy your mom an iPhone” people.
I can't read that without this song popping into my head.
Not entirely true… the American Android users care about it;
Then I guess it’s nice for both of them that iOS will support RCS.
They do in the US, and you're getting downvoted because of US defaultism.
But on a global scale, you're right.
None of my android friends have RCS on their phone yet, but my iPhone does.
It’s more than likely that every single one of your Android friends have RCS on their phones.
I am absolutely positive none of them do, they show as sms and we keep using signal instead.
You having no clue is not the same thing as being absolutely positive.
my dude.
I have literally sat next to these people, just this past Saturday, and we were talking about just this BECAUSE our group chat for our game wasn’t “working” for us.
I know for an absolute certain fact that the three of them don’t have RCS, we all thought it was funny and moved on with our lives and switched to signal.
Idk why you’re so certain of something you’re otherwise totally ignorant to
You do not know for absolute certain fact, which I know for absolute certain fact because the likelihood of your claim is incredibly low.
Are your friends phones running Android 5.0 or later? (I’m sure they are) they have RCS. End of story. This is not something you can dispute, you’re just wrong.
You can be in denial about it, but your friends have RCS.
They need Google Messages and they need to enable it in the settings.
aww. does apple being forced to allow the newest messaging standard hurt you?
No, they’re mostly correct; basically no one except Android users in the USA cares. Everywhere else has it figured out with third party messaging platforms that’s geographically favored, and Apple users in USA will continue to use the superior iMessage protocol with each other. Only the Android users in USA are left out from sending/receiving messaging, so they’re salivating over the update like it’s the best thing since sliced bread.
RCS is janky, inconsistent, and carrier dependent. Can’t wait for Android users in the USA to join the better rest of the world. Until GSM consortium mandates end to end encryption and force all carriers to adopt certain version of consistent minimum, RCS is and will continue to be a garbage inferior protocol that should be avoided like the plague.
Doesn’t matter either way because everyone uses WhatsApp anyway.
RCS will never be able to compete with either because it’s a GSMA standard. Apple or Meta can think of a cool new feature, add it to their client and roll it out to all their users with the next update.
If they want to add a new feature to RCS, the GSMA (An organization with over 1500 members) will have to form a committee, they can then talk about their conflicting interestes for a few years before writing down a new version of the standard, then dozens of clients and servers at hundreds of different operators need to be upgraded before everyone can use the new feature. Due to this bullshit RCS will never be able to keep up.
WhatsApp is big outside the U.S. inside the U.S., I don’t know a single person who uses it.
Honestly, where I operate, almost nobody uses (outgoing) sms/mms - unless their phone has actual physical buttons on it. It’s all iMessage for those who can or something like Viber for those who can’t. I can’t see why anybody would take a step backwards to RCS when it offered nothing that we haven’t already been doing for years - and it’s apparently network dependant.
I care, I can finally wifi text iPhone users who won't use signal or even discord
Especially not discord you mean.
Any of my comms through these means have no security implications anyway. They would have gone through unencrypted sms before this, so idrc if discord or the feds would know my very limited plans with friends and family. I just care that my already unencrypted messages won't take multiple hours to go through soon
Important to note those chats won’t be encrypted.
Ofc, neither was sms
Well I just bring it up because part of RCS is encryption, but there are a lot of asterisks and one of them is that RCS with Apple will never be encrypted.
It’s one of the main problems with RCS is that whether or not the chat is secure depends on the implementation and is dependent on sender and receiver, unlike iMessage where you know that when the chat bubbles are blue, your chat is encrypted.
IMO inconsistent encryption is worse than no encryption at all, due to the false sense of security.
I totally agree, I wish apple would have implemented it on their end. I'm just happy that my already unencrypted texts won't take multiple hours to go through now
Literally no one cares about RCS.
Not entirely true… the American Android users care about it; Apple users will still default to the superior iMessage as opposed to the inconsistent carrier dependant RCS; rest of the world will use geo-preferred third party messaging app that also offer consistent experience between carriers.
“Buy your mom an iPhone” people.
I can't read that without this song popping into my head.
Then I guess it’s nice for both of them that iOS will support RCS.
They do in the US, and you're getting downvoted because of US defaultism.
But on a global scale, you're right.
None of my android friends have RCS on their phone yet, but my iPhone does.
It’s more than likely that every single one of your Android friends have RCS on their phones.
I am absolutely positive none of them do, they show as sms and we keep using signal instead.
You having no clue is not the same thing as being absolutely positive.
my dude.
I have literally sat next to these people, just this past Saturday, and we were talking about just this BECAUSE our group chat for our game wasn’t “working” for us.
I know for an absolute certain fact that the three of them don’t have RCS, we all thought it was funny and moved on with our lives and switched to signal.
Idk why you’re so certain of something you’re otherwise totally ignorant to
You do not know for absolute certain fact, which I know for absolute certain fact because the likelihood of your claim is incredibly low.
Are your friends phones running Android 5.0 or later? (I’m sure they are) they have RCS. End of story. This is not something you can dispute, you’re just wrong.
You can be in denial about it, but your friends have RCS.
They need Google Messages and they need to enable it in the settings.
aww. does apple being forced to allow the newest messaging standard hurt you?
No, they’re mostly correct; basically no one except Android users in the USA cares. Everywhere else has it figured out with third party messaging platforms that’s geographically favored, and Apple users in USA will continue to use the superior iMessage protocol with each other. Only the Android users in USA are left out from sending/receiving messaging, so they’re salivating over the update like it’s the best thing since sliced bread.
RCS is janky, inconsistent, and carrier dependent. Can’t wait for Android users in the USA to join the better rest of the world. Until GSM consortium mandates end to end encryption and force all carriers to adopt certain version of consistent minimum, RCS is and will continue to be a garbage inferior protocol that should be avoided like the plague.
Doesn’t matter either way because everyone uses WhatsApp anyway.
RCS will never be able to compete with either because it’s a GSMA standard. Apple or Meta can think of a cool new feature, add it to their client and roll it out to all their users with the next update.
If they want to add a new feature to RCS, the GSMA (An organization with over 1500 members) will have to form a committee, they can then talk about their conflicting interestes for a few years before writing down a new version of the standard, then dozens of clients and servers at hundreds of different operators need to be upgraded before everyone can use the new feature. Due to this bullshit RCS will never be able to keep up.
WhatsApp is big outside the U.S. inside the U.S., I don’t know a single person who uses it.
Honestly, where I operate, almost nobody uses (outgoing) sms/mms - unless their phone has actual physical buttons on it. It’s all iMessage for those who can or something like Viber for those who can’t. I can’t see why anybody would take a step backwards to RCS when it offered nothing that we haven’t already been doing for years - and it’s apparently network dependant.
I care, I can finally wifi text iPhone users who won't use signal or even discord
Especially not discord you mean.
Any of my comms through these means have no security implications anyway. They would have gone through unencrypted sms before this, so idrc if discord or the feds would know my very limited plans with friends and family. I just care that my already unencrypted messages won't take multiple hours to go through soon
Important to note those chats won’t be encrypted.
Ofc, neither was sms
Well I just bring it up because part of RCS is encryption, but there are a lot of asterisks and one of them is that RCS with Apple will never be encrypted.
It’s one of the main problems with RCS is that whether or not the chat is secure depends on the implementation and is dependent on sender and receiver, unlike iMessage where you know that when the chat bubbles are blue, your chat is encrypted.
IMO inconsistent encryption is worse than no encryption at all, due to the false sense of security.
I totally agree, I wish apple would have implemented it on their end. I'm just happy that my already unencrypted texts won't take multiple hours to go through now