When is the last time you changed your mind about something big?

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Always made fun of vegans but then I actually looked into nutrition and how we don't need to eat animals to be healthy. Yeah... So if I only eat them for taste, why the fuck would I want to kill them? Was a pretty big but also instant switch in my head.

I don't have a problem with veganism. I love eating vegetables, and enjoy plenty of meals without any animal products. What I could do without is the vegan products that imitate animal products. I am so much happier with a vegetable "burger" that embraces the taste of vegetables instead of one that tries to mimic the taste, texture and appearance of beef.

Well good news, you don't need to buy them :] and these products just existing shouldn't be a problem to you, right?

Their existence actually does inconvenience me. They have taken space at the grocery store that used to be used for things I purchased, and some restaurants that used to have pretty good veggie burgers changed to impossible/beyond which I prefer less and also disagrees with my stomach.

That may be but those restaurants used to be 1 in a 1000 and now every other restaurant has vegetarian/vegan dishes on the menu. The offerings in restaurants and supermarkets are just objectively better for vegans than they were 10-20 years ago.

I can definitely eat at more restaurants, but I don't really want to when all they do is slap a fake meat burger on the menu and call it a day

I so miss feed veggie and/or bean burgers! Being served fake beef, or soya mince or something is awful. obviously some people prefer them, and they're fully. entitled to their opinion, but beyond personal taste, I have had more success moving meat eaters to good food that happens to be vegan than I have convincing them weird substitutes are worth eating. Humous and falafel - yes please! Fake kebab meat with fake cheese sauce - 🤮

For the most part, you are right, and I'll acknowledge that how I worded that it sounded more complain-y than I really meant to. If anything I was trying to say that I thought it seems silly that things like that exist, and not that I have a big problem with it.

That said, I don't buy those products, but they still work their way into my life. If you have a vegan in your circle of friends or go out with one you'll eventually find yourself at a vegan pizza place, or being offered vegan "bacon" with breakfast.

I changed my mind about arguing with vegans on the internet. enjoy your vegetables.