Trump refuses to say if he wants Ukraine to win the war

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Here's a guy who believes things that come out of Putin's mouth, over his own eyes and his own government.

Remind me, which side just got busted for being literally paid by Russia to post pro-russian propaganda about the election and Ukraine? Wasn't that conservatives? If Putin wants Kamala, why is Russia paying American conservative influencers millions of dollars to sway voters away from her?

Lmao I don't really give a damn. I just quoted Putins' own words, make that what you will and the fact is he supports Harris apparently.

I know you quoted Putin's own words, that was my whole point lol. He said those words in response to the US GOVERNMENT saying that he is paying conservative influencers to influence the US election.

So, which source do you believe, Putin, or the US government? Go on

I dont really trust, either to be honest. What has the US government said on the matter?

Here's the official statement

The US business that was implicated has been named as Tenet Media, which employs Tim Pool and Benny Johnson, noted Trump supporters. Each of whom was being paid $100s of thousands of dollars by Tenet, who was in turn being paid directly by Russia. Tenet has since shut down and the creators are lawyering up.

Here's an article from BBC giving more details about who was involved, with quotes from the conservative influencers that took the money, and from the DOJ. I will put some quotes below but I strongly suggest you read the whole thing because it does seem like you personally have fallen victim to this Russian propaganda.

“While the views expressed in the videos are not uniform, the subject matter and content of the videos are often consistent with the Government of Russia’s interest in amplifying U.S. domestic divisions in order to weaken U.S. opposition to core Government of Russia interests, such as its ongoing war in Ukraine,”

The platform's two founders "admitted to each other in their private communications that their 'investors' were, in truth and in fact, the 'Russians'", the indictment says

Editing to add the actual indictment for you, since we care a lot about sources in this thread! https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1366266/dl

No, I mean that the US government claims Putin support of Harris is false or a charade.

If you're just going to quote people and accept it as fact, I have the metal scrapping rights for the Eiffel tower for sale and I'm willing to do so for cheap.

Better than armchair conjecture, tbh.

Armchair conjecture is exactly what you're doing

No, ffs, I was just citing official sources, that's the goddamn opposite

Well, officially, Putin supports Harris, but who knows with that deranged man.

So first of all, that is "armchair conjecture".

Second of all, you've already admitted just because Putin says it doesn't mean it's true.

Third of all, what is your reaction to Putin's support? Sounds like "be careful of Harris, Putin supports her." Do you think Putin is an idiot? He knows that's how people will react.

Not supporting someone just because Putin said to is just as stupid as supporting someone just because Putin said to. Either way you're letting Putin make your decisions instead of thinking for yourself.

Yeah 'who knows', I don't.

So how the hell is that conjecture lmao?

Man, for someone who doesn't know anything you sure do go on a lot about things you know nothing about.

Yeah, like what?

That's the thing you can't trust putins own words lmao