One of the main features of this strike is the companies are trying to get extras to sign away their likenesses. The companies then intend to use their likenesses "for eternity and in every universe" (the actual wording) as computer generated images to abolish their jobs entirely. Actors are not particularly happy about the attempt to get them to do work that will abolish their own existence, and the higher paid actors see it as inevitable that this expands to include them to if they don't fight it now.
There is nobody avoiding the strike at this point. Everything has ground to a halt. If anything starts again the guilds for crews, camera operators etc are planning to join.
I do agree that it’s bullshit to pressure actors into signing away their likeness and knew this was a main feature, but SAG is joining the wave that WAG started and I don’t support increasing their residuals. WAG and SAG are basically the cool kids club of landed gentry. I believe people should be able to form unions to pursue self interests, but that doesn’t mean I blindly support every union strike.
Regarding union strikes, I personally don’t get why sanitation workers don’t strike to get a lot more money, they certainly deserve it.
Regarding union strikes, I personally don’t get why sanitation workers don’t strike to get a lot more money, they certainly deserve it.
Mostly caused by a lack of radical leadership. You tend to find the unions getting shit done have reds running them, often from groups like the IWW or other entryist parties or salters (Chris Smalls amazon union are leninists and it took an absolutely massive salting effort to achieve), doing work in this space is extremely difficult because entrenched liberals are do-nothings and shifting them out of leaderships is not simple as reaching workers and convincing them that the leadership is trash is a lot of long and very hard effort that often requires salting the workplace as well.
So tldr it's about getting the people that want to stir shit up into those leadership positions and those people aren't liberals.
What does salter mean in this context?
Salting is where many people join a company specifically with the goal of organising it and forming unions.
These people will then work as organised cells within companies to spread propaganda and shift the rest of the workers towards a position that will result in an eventual successful union vote.
That sounds nice. If we can replace labor with robots, then these actors can do something else useful for society.
Or they can continue to act if they really want to. They just won't be making as much money, and that's fine by me.
Man, this comment is naive as hell. I'm disappointed to see so much anti-labor sentiment here. But what else should I expect from that username.
It's really only one dude spamming every comment with replies lol
What do you mean? I'm not anti-labor. I'm pro-progress.
Do you also think people shouldn't be allowed to pump their own gas so someone else has a job?
You're an insufferable asshole and you will never understand why people see you that way.
You're talking about ruining the lives of tens of thousands of people with families and children, have some fucking empathy you psychopath.
I think this is a little hyperbolic?
The vast majority of those actors have other careers.
Calm down. Your emotions are controlling your argument.
These actors will do just fine if they can never act again. They'd just have to get a regular job like anyone else.
They'll still be living a higher quality of life while working less than the vast majority of people on the planet.
You're just mad that someone says we shouldn't be passing a bunch of money around at the top. I suggest you brush up on the definitions of 'want' and 'need' because you call me a sociopath.
They don't need more money. They want it, plain and simple.
I don't care for people who want more money. Because they get it, others who need it don't.
People who need more money don't ask for it. And those that don't do. Sounds like a totally fabricated answer.
People who need more money don't ask for it. And those that don't do. Sounds like a totally fabricated answer.
People who need more money don't ask for it. And those that don't do. Sounds like a totally fabricated answer.
People who need more money don't ask for it. And those that don't do. Sounds like a totally fabricated answer.
One of the main features of this strike is the companies are trying to get extras to sign away their likenesses. The companies then intend to use their likenesses "for eternity and in every universe" (the actual wording) as computer generated images to abolish their jobs entirely. Actors are not particularly happy about the attempt to get them to do work that will abolish their own existence, and the higher paid actors see it as inevitable that this expands to include them to if they don't fight it now.
There is nobody avoiding the strike at this point. Everything has ground to a halt. If anything starts again the guilds for crews, camera operators etc are planning to join.
I do agree that it’s bullshit to pressure actors into signing away their likeness and knew this was a main feature, but SAG is joining the wave that WAG started and I don’t support increasing their residuals. WAG and SAG are basically the cool kids club of landed gentry. I believe people should be able to form unions to pursue self interests, but that doesn’t mean I blindly support every union strike.
Regarding union strikes, I personally don’t get why sanitation workers don’t strike to get a lot more money, they certainly deserve it.
Mostly caused by a lack of radical leadership. You tend to find the unions getting shit done have reds running them, often from groups like the IWW or other entryist parties or salters (Chris Smalls amazon union are leninists and it took an absolutely massive salting effort to achieve), doing work in this space is extremely difficult because entrenched liberals are do-nothings and shifting them out of leaderships is not simple as reaching workers and convincing them that the leadership is trash is a lot of long and very hard effort that often requires salting the workplace as well.
So tldr it's about getting the people that want to stir shit up into those leadership positions and those people aren't liberals.
What does salter mean in this context?
Salting is where many people join a company specifically with the goal of organising it and forming unions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salting_(union_organizing)
These people will then work as organised cells within companies to spread propaganda and shift the rest of the workers towards a position that will result in an eventual successful union vote.
That sounds nice. If we can replace labor with robots, then these actors can do something else useful for society.
Or they can continue to act if they really want to. They just won't be making as much money, and that's fine by me.
Man, this comment is naive as hell. I'm disappointed to see so much anti-labor sentiment here. But what else should I expect from that username.
It's really only one dude spamming every comment with replies lol
What do you mean? I'm not anti-labor. I'm pro-progress.
Do you also think people shouldn't be allowed to pump their own gas so someone else has a job?
You're an insufferable asshole and you will never understand why people see you that way.
You're talking about ruining the lives of tens of thousands of people with families and children, have some fucking empathy you psychopath.
I think this is a little hyperbolic?
The vast majority of those actors have other careers.
"Ruining lives" probably isn't accurate.
The executives certainly want lives ruined.
No, I'm not lol.
Calm down. Your emotions are controlling your argument.
These actors will do just fine if they can never act again. They'd just have to get a regular job like anyone else.
They'll still be living a higher quality of life while working less than the vast majority of people on the planet.
You're just mad that someone says we shouldn't be passing a bunch of money around at the top. I suggest you brush up on the definitions of 'want' and 'need' because you call me a sociopath.
They don't need more money. They want it, plain and simple.
I don't care for people who want more money. Because they get it, others who need it don't.
People who need more money don't ask for it. And those that don't do. Sounds like a totally fabricated answer.
People who need more money don't ask for it. And those that don't do. Sounds like a totally fabricated answer.
People who need more money don't ask for it. And those that don't do. Sounds like a totally fabricated answer.
People who need more money don't ask for it. And those that don't do. Sounds like a totally fabricated answer.
What? I think you're just saying things, lol.