Biden promised no jail time for weed. He's running out of time to pardon cannabis convicts.

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With the president's decision to drop out of the race, he has effectively begun a longer lame-duck period, which is historically when most presidential clemency grants have occurred.

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C'mon he won't do this at all.

Sure he will. There are only 150 of them. The rest are state convictions, which don’t count.

Get real bro

this is a very real statement. There are very few people in federal prison on possession charges. No one found guilty of trafficking is ever going to be pardoned, and no one suggested that would happen.

The vast majority of people guilty for possession are imprisoned on a state level, and Biden cannot pardon those people.

If you say so. Are centrists still saying that he already rescheduled cannabis?

You mean as a tactic to get votes for Kamala?

I mean as a lie, since cannabis hasn't been rescheduled and was never gonna be under Biden.

He asked the DEA to reevaluate which is all he can do legally unless congress passes new laws.

If it hasn't been rescheduled, it's a lie to say it has been rescheduled.

You're the only one who mentioned anything about rescheduling.

In the context of broken promises by the Biden administration regarding the bipartisan proxy war against minorities that we call the war on drugs.

"If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention... then that’s what I’m going to do"

-JD Vance -Ensign_Crab

Biden promised to reschedule, and it was a lie. The war on drugs has been a bipartisan effort, and it disproportionately harms minorities. Not only that, it was designed to harm minorities from the very beginning.

John Ehrlichman, one of the architects of the war on drugs:

We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news.

Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

Don't call me couchfucker again just because you don't like how I characterize your favorite policy.

There isn’t a clear yes or no answer to your question, since it is leading.

Are you waiting for someone to be released from federal prison that was only charged with possession?

I'm not waiting for Biden to do anything. I saw how that went with rescheduling. You want to believe Lucy won't pull the football away, go ahead.

Sorry, I don’t know who Lucy is, and I’m not into football.

Hello Mr Crab! What shall we discuss today? Here we have your "b b b but Biden bad!"

Ok, sure. He'll totally do it. He's not Crime Bill Biden anymore. Most progressive human to ever grace this worthless rock or whatever. No criticism of your god allowed.

Ah sarcasm and appeal to a diety that 'obviously thou worships him like a god', when I simply point out a fact that he won't do a controversial thing until after the election. That a simple fact to you means worship is laughable. I wonder if it's projection.

You speculated he was waiting because it was controversial. I speculated he wasn't going to do it at all. Your speculation is no more fact than mine. Yet you also believed that Biden was gonna reschedule cannabis, and that was a fucking lie too.

It's a fact that pardons, especially controversial ones, come at the end after the election. That this means worship to you is still laughable. You're now just trying to be pedantic on the word fact.

Still mad that it's just a little ahead of the ball to say that he (whatever agency really) rescheduled marijuana? Boy. Not to mention it's just another form of trying to be pedantic.

Still mad that it’s just a little ahead of the ball

He never intended to reschedule, and he ran out the clock.

Didn't we already discuss this? It's not him, it's whatever agency that decides (afaik). He told them to take a look at it hint hint wink wink 'it's not 1960 anymore'.

So, you're still playing pedantic games huh.

Didn’t we already discuss this? It’s not him, it’s whatever agency that decides

He would individually ask every federal employee in person if that's what it took to run out the clock. Or until he got the "no" he was after.

Ahh the b b b but Biden bad! train. See this is the speculation that you project. Are we having fun today yet?

Ahh the b b b but Biden bad! train. See this is the speculation that you project

Whatever you say. Cannabis is rescheduled and the pardons happened. The genocide stopped too. And we're not fracking anymore.

So still pedantic. And of course you know you can't defend that, so you throw strawmans at me so that you can wrap the whole thing into one fake little package. Who accused the other of lies? We see it was projection. Just so you can be mad at me. Fun times huh.

Cannabis still isn't rescheduled. That's an actual fact. Unlike your "He's gonna pardon them after the election" speculation.

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