I recall that 5-6 years ago, temperatures around 30 Celsius were outrageous, unprecedented and unbearable here in Central Europe. Now, we're seeing stuff like 40 degrees and we don't even whine about it anymore.
40 was stupidly high and rare and now it's still stupidly high but less rare and people very much still complain about it, 30 wasn't super rare my entire life and i still complain about anything over 25 lol.
Local weather doesn't mean much anyway, hottest 2 weeks on earth and where I live has been mostly pretty chill with 2 days that were actually hot (and those still only went to like 31). Pretty much the way i remember summer commonly being a while ago.
And just to be clear i am in no way trying to pretend climate change isn't real, it's real and we're all royally fucked, but 30° really isn't anything new and also saying "it was 40 degrees for a week" on its own doesn't really say more than "global warming can't be real it was -10 last week".
I agree with you in spirit, but that last sentence is pushing it.
I get the whole weather vs climate thing, but this heat is going past that. It's pretty difficult to not attribute this historically unprecedented heat wave directly to climate change.
I am primarily attributing it to that, especially since it's affecting large parts of europe and also just the fact that it's been a general trend. I just suck at phrasing sometimes.
My main point was really just that 30° in central europe has not been weird in the last 100 years.
Yes we have to look at accumulated data, not any particular data point or weather event. And so there will always be visceral rejections based on anecdotal experience which just feels more relevant than the actually-relevant data.
What? We had way more than one 30°C day per Year in Germany, in the 90s. I remember these days quite fondly, because we've had a really great swimming bath.
What are you talking about?! In Poland it was quite usuall to get >30 deg for few weeks during summer. Actually last few years are colder than they were around 2010-2015 at least where I live. Climate is changing, that's it. Calling it global warming is stupid.
Calling it global warming isn't stupid, the globe is warming. It doesn't mean "everywhere is warming" but "the global average is warming".
I recall that 5-6 years ago, temperatures around 30 Celsius were outrageous, unprecedented and unbearable here in Central Europe. Now, we're seeing stuff like 40 degrees and we don't even whine about it anymore.
40 was stupidly high and rare and now it's still stupidly high but less rare and people very much still complain about it, 30 wasn't super rare my entire life and i still complain about anything over 25 lol.
Local weather doesn't mean much anyway, hottest 2 weeks on earth and where I live has been mostly pretty chill with 2 days that were actually hot (and those still only went to like 31). Pretty much the way i remember summer commonly being a while ago.
And just to be clear i am in no way trying to pretend climate change isn't real, it's real and we're all royally fucked, but 30° really isn't anything new and also saying "it was 40 degrees for a week" on its own doesn't really say more than "global warming can't be real it was -10 last week".
I agree with you in spirit, but that last sentence is pushing it.
I get the whole weather vs climate thing, but this heat is going past that. It's pretty difficult to not attribute this historically unprecedented heat wave directly to climate change.
I am primarily attributing it to that, especially since it's affecting large parts of europe and also just the fact that it's been a general trend. I just suck at phrasing sometimes.
My main point was really just that 30° in central europe has not been weird in the last 100 years.
Yes we have to look at accumulated data, not any particular data point or weather event. And so there will always be visceral rejections based on anecdotal experience which just feels more relevant than the actually-relevant data.
What? We had way more than one 30°C day per Year in Germany, in the 90s. I remember these days quite fondly, because we've had a really great swimming bath.
What are you talking about?! In Poland it was quite usuall to get >30 deg for few weeks during summer. Actually last few years are colder than they were around 2010-2015 at least where I live. Climate is changing, that's it. Calling it global warming is stupid.
Calling it global warming isn't stupid, the globe is warming. It doesn't mean "everywhere is warming" but "the global average is warming".