Donald Trump Wins US Presidency for a Second Time

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News@lemmy.world – -127 points – 1 weeks ago

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Trump won USA Presidential Elections 🎉🇺🇸😁😁 Who is going to celebrate tonight? 🍾🎈

I do truly look forward for it 🤗

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That's not fascism or the vilification of a group. It's just common sense and for the greater good. Fascism is what the US is about to have for the next 4 years under Trump. And hopefully it's only 4 years.

Forcing medical procedures on people, threatening them with arrest if they go outside, and censoring info about the vaccine is "for the greater good"? All while the people who were supposed to be protecting us were blatantly breaking their own regulations? How so? Would you throw every American in prison if it meant people were "safer"? What happened to "my body, my choice"?

Your sources are absolute shit. Try harder.

Are you saying these things didn't happen? What's wrong with my sources? And again would you imprison the whole country in the name of "safety"?

I'm saying your sources are absolute shit because that's not fascism.

That doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the sources. That's just disagreeing with my point. But how is imprisoning people for going outside not fascism?

I'm not disagreeing with your sources. I'm disagreeing with you. You're the one saying these actions are fascist. And I'm telling you it's not. I suggest you do some actual reading on fascism before sitting there saying that implementing public health measure for a once-in-a-century virus outbreak that's killed tens of millions is fascism.

You started off by saying my sources are bad, which is, by definition, disagreeing with them. Also, you haven't explained how imprisoning people for going outside and censoring information isn't fascist. I'm certain that fascists throughout history have done and defended stuff like this for the exact same reasons you are - "for the greater good," "for the sake of public health," etc. Maybe we should throw everyone in prison and never let them speak to each other in-person anymore so communicable diseases like COVID can never spread again, since if you do fascist things because you think you're right, that makes it not fascism.

The difference is Covid was justified.

So it isn't fascism when you think it's justified. Would you say the same thing about genocide or persecuton? How are are you willing to go with the idea that the ends justify the means?

It isn't fascism when healthcare systems get overwhelmed, an unprecedented level of people are dying, and every expert was advising for the measures that were implemented (and more in a lot of cases). There were reasons these rules were put in place. And it wasn't for anyone's ego or political points.

So in other words... The ends justify the means?

No.

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