Realistically... How fucked is the US?

TehBamski@lemmy.world to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world – 369 points –

(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)

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Multiple regulatory bodies are going to get disbanded. The EPA is unlikely to survive, whole departments of the FDA are about to get gutted. Anything involving industrial safety is going to get its funding cut. Unconstitutional crackdowns on free and independent media is almost certain. Large scale damage to the functions of many government institutions can be expected. Massive economic damage due to reckless deregulation ( that's even before they start putting tariffs on everything and wind up in multiple simultaneous trade wars). Funding for education and infrastructure maintenance will be reduced to allow tax cuts for the already wealthy. Massive loss of global influence and a massive gain in influence by hostile autocratic nations is also something you can expect.

I could go on and on but even if you were to assume they weren't serious about project 2025 (if you haven't read that you should) it's real bad.

call me hopelessly naiive but just.. why? the why is what i can never wrap my head around? why do they want to destroy the country? do they hate it? and like.. why would people want to get rid of social security? do they just want people after 65 years old to.. die? why?? i'm so sad..

Dictators only care about one thing: absolute power. They will destroy the country they take over to get that power and to keep it for as long as possible

Yes. America has always been two countries. I hate the America they love and they hate the America we love. And the problem is that these Americas have always existed together. We’re the Union to their confederacy. We’re the premature anti fascists to their silver shirts.

Many believe they are saving the country by voting for Trump. Everyone sees that America is going downhill. Everything is more expensive, more uncertain, more precarious. Leftists blame corporations and corporate capture of government agencies. Right wingers think that more corporate power is good and if left unchecked, the "free market" (aka government rules that favor unchecked corporate malfeasance) will be better for America.

People vote for their economic interests, as best as they can understand them. Most on the right think that their economic interests are served by corporate deregulation and scapegoating of immigrants. However, within that context, this is also why removing social security is not realistic. That's a direct attack on people's benefits, which they are not in favor of. Right wing corporate types want to cut social security so they don't have to pay taxes, or there will be more money in the government coffers to give back to the corporations. But the majority of right wing people that the corporate types rely on for votes will never vote to repeal social security.

oh, you're serious

Imagine basing your personality on a satire character and thinking you're an independent thinker.

Read the comments and note the downvotes, sir. I'm definitely in the minority here. Therefore I would dare suggest it is in fact you who are the thoughtless parrot here. Governments are corrupt and incompetant organizations, and the bigger they become, the more corrupt and incompetant they are. If you truly are concerned that a single man can wreck such damage, you need to understand that is only possible because people like you have built up an organization that holds far too much power. The obvious solution is to shrink the scope of that organization so that a single maniac can't do so much damage.

Big government is to blame for Trump having so much power. Learn, or be doomed to see history repeat itself.

Just because you say the sky is yellow, doesn't mean you're better for it.

If you shrink the government, corporations will just fill the power vacuum. It's that simple.

Open your eyes. Corporations already heavily influence policy. Stop making that possible by decentralizing the power!

We've already had four years of Trump to know that's not what will happen. The only power he'll relinquish is power over corporations. Individuals will not be getting more rights, unless it's to hurt other individuals.

I don't disagree, I just hope people of different views can come together and see that decentralizing the power structure might be worth considering if you don't like the amount of power we handed one man. That means cutting the federal government and moving those programs to local government, private charities, or the bin.

Economics of scale already proves that to be a fantasy.

Also, private charities and local governments can't do anything about multi national corporations creating pollution or price fixing.

Pollution is a property rights issue, don't need anything beyond private property rights and a court system to cover that. Price fixing is caused by government created barriers to entry, artificially restricting competition. In other words, price fixing is a problem caused by government overreach, so obviously government isn't the solution.

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It's not a single man. They have the Supreme Court, the Senate, possibly the House, and your local cops after hours. Vance is praying for his chance to rule.

The loss of our infrastructure before we've built up decentralized alternatives will cause senseless deaths.

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