How come I'm seeing "removed" all over the place?

No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world – 45 points – 12 months ago

I gather some server is for some arcane reason censoring naughty words to protect our delicate sensibilities. Is it on my end, on lemmy.ml? Is it the server people are posting from? Is it something happening in the federation? Is it the Romulans?

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First, always start by reading the public modlog. Mod logs are public.

Next: how about an example? I'm not seeing what you describe, so I'd really appreciate a reference (link) to whatever it is you are describing.

Not OP, but how does one read the 'modlog' on mobile?

Assuming you’re using a browser, on the main community page, expand the sidebar. The modlog is linked at the bottom, just above the list of mods. Here’s the modlog for /c/nostupidquestions

How the hell do you 'expand the sidebar?'

I don't totally get this user interface. Not for lack of trying, more for lack of I don't see what you're saying...

Go to the /c/nostupidquestions page in a browser: https://lemmy.world/c/nostupidquestions

Near the top left, just under the community name is a label that says “Sidebar” with a little plus symbol to the right of it. Click this an it expands out, listing the community rules and a bunch of other info. At the very bottom of the expanded region is the list of mods. Just above that is a link labeled “Modlog”.

If you are using a mobile app or the mobile version of the site (m.lemmy.world) then you may not be able to do this.

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

And here's my message from the Jerboa app for Lemmy on Android.

I'm on the toilet right now, you expect me to drag my laptop in here?

The modlog seems also good on mobile browsers.

Please explain, how's that work?

What tap? What do?

I'm not exactly stupid, just new to this service..

On the standard Lemmy UI on Android if you click the site logo, top left, you should then see a sidebar button that contains the modlog link.

If your chosen mobile app doesn't offer the feature, then you can't. Every app that does offer the feature does it differently, so it's impossible for me to give you a single guidance that works on every mobile app.

I assume you do have access to a web browser on mobile though, so open your web browser, navigate to the instance hosting the community and/or your own home instance, and then depending on the layout used by your device the modlog will be a clickable link in the sidebar to the right, or will appear as a link near the bottom of the page after scrolling to the bottom.

I've actually found it now on the Jerboa app, but thank you and everyone else for the advice.

New platform to me, still learning, but hey I'm enjoying it so far anyways 👍

I had to quit using jerboa weeks ago (too unstable) and switched to something different. Glad you found it. The public modlog is awesome. It's one of the significant and intentional differences from reddit (which does not expose moderation activity to users). Having the modlog be public forces transparency and accountability, which is refreshing.

Huh, I'll admit Jerboa does have its moments of hiccups, but I haven't found any significant issues with it so far that I couldn't attribute to a lemmy.world temporary server issue. 🤷‍♂️

If you use Liftoff (which I largely recommend!) then you have to open the community or instance that you are interested in, and on the "about" tab (it shows the sidebar) there is a "modlog" button at the bottom, which if you click you'll see the modlog for that community or instance.

You can open the main page of a community by clicking on it's name when you see it (like in the header of a post), or by searching.
For opening the instance main page you basically click on the instance name until you see it. Most of the times it will get you there directly, but sometimes you'll need to find and click the instance name once more.
Or you can open either from a search menu, of course.

In a few threads now where someone typed an expletive, the post gets censored and it just says removed where the word should've been.

I'm trying to link to a comment, but when I check the link, it keeps pointing to my response to them. Seems like some other lemmy quirk, but maybe it'll work for you

In another post, someone tried to say "resting removed face" but it came out "resting removed face"

edit: well that's awkward, when I tried to write b i t c h, it did it to my comment here. So it is a lemmy.ml thing?

Lemmy has a slur filter regex. In case you're curious, you can see an instance's regex using this url (replacing the domain as needed):

https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/site

CTRL+F "slur_filter"

Huh, there are some filtered slurs in there I've never heard of before! I guess this probably isn't the place to ask to whom they apply and how, though. Still, the list isn't as long as I expected, and doesn't seem to apply to profanity so much as just offensive slurs. I feel like the "b-word" is a little bit of a stretch, but I can appreciate the intent there.

Thanks for giving the best answer here!

This filter was very controversial, especially because at first it was hardcoded into Lemmy itself, and the devs initially were insistent in keeping it that way. Fortunately they eventually allowed it to be configurable by instance, which is a much more sensible approach. Especially considering other languages and even some english variants. And while most people like you and me appreciate the intent, many are still unsure if this is a good approach to fight the problem. It does seem hard to avoid a lot of silly false positives. I remember someone mentioning being really confused by this "Sremovedew Valley" mentioned everywhere, until they realized it was just Stardew Valley being mangled by the filter.

It’s the clbuttic problem, also known as the Scunthorpe problem.