It is. So where is the police report? She said she was groped on several occasions (which is sexual assault) and quit the job by her own decision, so why not throw the men who groped her under the bus?
I am tired of reading these things. I am absolutely aware these are done in good faith to have some neutral instance to deal with this, but it not the reality. If you are low on money, you are right out or a bit later, if you are an "undesirable" person, you will lose, and if you lack time, energy and mental health going through the paperwork will break the last bit you had and money too.
Yeah, the whole “it didn’t happen if it wasn’t reported to the police” thing is shit. There is unfortunately too long of a list of reasons as to why someone would be unable or unwilling to report these types of things and the attitude of the OP you’re replying to is on the list.
You would think after watching the droves of men and women coming forward during the me too movement would show people that coming forward at the time is extremely difficult and often not possible.
In Austria and Germany (as far as I'm aware, I'm not a lawyer) when it's criminal charges the state sues. So you report it to the police and then it's out of your hand pretty much (besides being a witness). If you want extra compensation you can go the civil case route afterwards as a victim.
Similar to if you stab me and the police notices then they don't ask me if I want to sue you. They'll charge you all on their own as it's a criminal matter, not a civil one.
In Austria and Germany (as far as I’m aware, I’m not a lawyer) when it’s criminal charges the state sues
To follow on from my previous comment... I'm sure you've seen multiple cases in your own country where the police / courts decline to charge or prosecute someone based on lack of physical evidence
True, we also have the whole Rammstein issue at the moment (But that's even more complicated, as the girls were all adults and consented to it at first).
I'm not sure what the recording laws in Canada are, LTT has a hundred cameras around every day and Madison wrote she got regularly assaulted. If it's legal there I'd film myself to have proof.
Overall I just don't like the timing, the drama was a year ago and now that other (more objective drama) gets brought up Madison unpacks everything and piles it on top? She was already in public back then and it's bullshit that she believes the employer handbook would be an NDA covering sexual assault allegations (like Linus himself wrote back then, no NDA can do that in Canada). The other stuff in the post? Totally fine, that's criticizing internal processes. But mixed right in there are serious criminal allegations.
And psychologists will probably tell you that after the assault there is shame, embarrassment, fear of repercussions due to power dynamics and anxiety about what will happen. Of course this doesn't mean our society is dysfunctional, as we already managed to get a lot of systems in place to drive up this figure, but they're all far from perfect, and we need more studies and more improvements to do victims of SA better justice.
I am tired of reading these things. I am absolutely aware these are done in good faith to have some neutral instance to deal with this, but it not the reality. If you are low on money, you are right out or a bit later, if you are an "undesirable" person, you will lose, and if you lack time, energy and mental health going through the paperwork will break the last bit you had and money too.
Yeah, the whole “it didn’t happen if it wasn’t reported to the police” thing is shit. There is unfortunately too long of a list of reasons as to why someone would be unable or unwilling to report these types of things and the attitude of the OP you’re replying to is on the list.
You would think after watching the droves of men and women coming forward during the me too movement would show people that coming forward at the time is extremely difficult and often not possible.
Ah darn, in Canada this is a bit fucked, true. Just found this: https://lernerspersonalinjury.ca/sexual-abuse/sexual-abuse-cases-who-pays-the-legal-bills/
In Austria and Germany (as far as I'm aware, I'm not a lawyer) when it's criminal charges the state sues. So you report it to the police and then it's out of your hand pretty much (besides being a witness). If you want extra compensation you can go the civil case route afterwards as a victim.
Similar to if you stab me and the police notices then they don't ask me if I want to sue you. They'll charge you all on their own as it's a criminal matter, not a civil one.
To follow on from my previous comment... I'm sure you've seen multiple cases in your own country where the police / courts decline to charge or prosecute someone based on lack of physical evidence
True, we also have the whole Rammstein issue at the moment (But that's even more complicated, as the girls were all adults and consented to it at first).
I'm not sure what the recording laws in Canada are, LTT has a hundred cameras around every day and Madison wrote she got regularly assaulted. If it's legal there I'd film myself to have proof.
Overall I just don't like the timing, the drama was a year ago and now that other (more objective drama) gets brought up Madison unpacks everything and piles it on top? She was already in public back then and it's bullshit that she believes the employer handbook would be an NDA covering sexual assault allegations (like Linus himself wrote back then, no NDA can do that in Canada). The other stuff in the post? Totally fine, that's criticizing internal processes. But mixed right in there are serious criminal allegations.
Just to further your opinion:
Only ~30% of sexual assaults get reported according to this: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
And psychologists will probably tell you that after the assault there is shame, embarrassment, fear of repercussions due to power dynamics and anxiety about what will happen. Of course this doesn't mean our society is dysfunctional, as we already managed to get a lot of systems in place to drive up this figure, but they're all far from perfect, and we need more studies and more improvements to do victims of SA better justice.