Do you mean from a historical standpoint? It depends on the culture, but it's pretty recent in its current iteration — in the west, it followed the rise of Christianity. For much of western history at least, it was considered OK to pitch, within reason (manly!) but not to catch (effeminate!). Warring states China was pretty similar. I'm less familiar with India but in any case that would have been suppressed by the Mughals.
It was in Zoroastrian tradition around the time Persia was conquering Greece. Definitely not a "Christian thing".
Leviticus' proscription of homosexuality in the Torah predates Grecco-Persian wars
There is debate though over whether that was referring to homosexuality or age gap violations.
Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination". It sounds pretty clear to me and at best could be proscribing both male homosexuality and pedersasty in one statement.
Edit: but ofc I do not know what the og scroll says nor would I be equipped to translate it or debate the true meaning of it.
Oh. I was thinking of the other one.
Thanks I thinking if Christianity was the main reason Homophobia or was there many smaller sources
And yet Thailand has had numerous genders for centuries(?). I was reading about it it’s fascinating they have a third classification with numerous sub-gender types such as Kathoey, Tom, Dee, Tom-Dee, Tom-Gay, and many more.
I think you'd find very different versions of homophobia based on cultural norms of the time and region. Romans and Greeks were quite different in ancient times.
There is no first record, it's sadly eternal. Heck, homophobia exists in dolphins.
homophobia only exists in humans
If you define homophobia as targeting other individuals for their homosexuality, it's quite documented in dolphins. They will gang assault (the bad kind of gang assault) other dolphins they see as fair game, often based on what their relationship status is.
Interesting do you have a source I would like to read it
Do you mean from a historical standpoint? It depends on the culture, but it's pretty recent in its current iteration — in the west, it followed the rise of Christianity. For much of western history at least, it was considered OK to pitch, within reason (manly!) but not to catch (effeminate!). Warring states China was pretty similar. I'm less familiar with India but in any case that would have been suppressed by the Mughals.
It was in Zoroastrian tradition around the time Persia was conquering Greece. Definitely not a "Christian thing".
Leviticus' proscription of homosexuality in the Torah predates Grecco-Persian wars
There is debate though over whether that was referring to homosexuality or age gap violations.
Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination". It sounds pretty clear to me and at best could be proscribing both male homosexuality and pedersasty in one statement.
Edit: but ofc I do not know what the og scroll says nor would I be equipped to translate it or debate the true meaning of it.
Oh. I was thinking of the other one.
Thanks I thinking if Christianity was the main reason Homophobia or was there many smaller sources
And yet Thailand has had numerous genders for centuries(?). I was reading about it it’s fascinating they have a third classification with numerous sub-gender types such as Kathoey, Tom, Dee, Tom-Dee, Tom-Gay, and many more.
It’s fascinating. Here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identities_in_Thailand
I think you'd find very different versions of homophobia based on cultural norms of the time and region. Romans and Greeks were quite different in ancient times.
There is no first record, it's sadly eternal. Heck, homophobia exists in dolphins.
homophobia only exists in humans
If you define homophobia as targeting other individuals for their homosexuality, it's quite documented in dolphins. They will gang assault (the bad kind of gang assault) other dolphins they see as fair game, often based on what their relationship status is.
Interesting do you have a source I would like to read it
I have several.
Dolphins have definitely been observed demonstrating a mindset of "I don't care about your interests, you were born to serve my own."
This is just violent in Dolphins with no mention homosexually