PeerTube is amazing for streaming! :)

Reverse Module@discuss.tchncs.de to Gaming@beehaw.org – 59 points –

I made a post earlier about Owncast. Long story short, I have to wait 48 hours to try it. In the meantime I decided to look into PeerTube livestreaming and I was astounded by how good it actually is.

Here are 30 mins of smooth livestreaming on Hardlimit. Simply amazing performance in game and on video. I just wish H265 encoding was supported, then it would be an endgame for me.

Seriously, more people need to start livestreaming on Peertube and of course donate to their instances. It's worth your time and your money far more than a Youtube Premium sub which, in the future, will also contain ads 100%.

PeerTube is the future of video content.

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I wish Peertube would be succesful, but i don't really see it.

  • I have searched for a gaming focused server in the past and haven't found one. Seem you were more sucesful than me. But i think finding the best server for youself is kind of harder on peertube
  • i don't really see, how peertube server are able to solve the issue, that peertube server need way bigger memory space than lemmy or mastodon. How would they able to fund this in a larger scale?

People will at some point need to realize that they have to donate and not pay a compulsory fee for products that are worth the money. It may not be apparent now but this is where the world is heading. When Youtube Premium also starts having ads and there's a higher tier for no ads then things will start moving and fast.

I don't believe you are right with that. If popular websites have more ads, we just see more ad blocker. I donate for my Mastodon and Lemmy server, but the vast majority of people will never pay for something like peertube, i just don't believe that.

I'm not sure how ad blocking is going to work once more and more ads are delivered via the domains you don't want to block.

PeerTube makes way, way more sense as a self-hosting platform for small and medium sized creators. That means the creators shoulder the burden of hosting their own content, and recoup those costs from their viewers via such vectors as Patreon. Having Patreon integration, direct one-time donation options, and user access levels for channels and/or videos so that subscriber-only content can be easily managed would go a long way towards this.

The Fediverse's current model of "donate to your serve admin using a completely disconnected 3rd party payment processor" isn't going to fly if you want actual popular anndprofrsional video content. Especially when the server admin is not the content creator.

Yes that is the big issue with this video platforms. Video streaming is a demanding task. And I can't even imagine how much storage would we need to have something remotely similar to YouTube. Google was able to run YouTube because it had free money coming in , now the funds are drying up so more ads coming their way.

I want an alternative to youtube as much as anyone, but I just don't see how peertube can be viable in a world where child abuse materials and nazi propaganda exist and can be posted there.

I mean, at least as of when I last looked at peertube, it works sort of like torrenting does, yeah? But it doesn't require you to whitelist the channels or instances you seed. Therefore: random people are going to end up seeding child abuse materials, revenge porn, hate screed videos, and so on, unknowingly and without intending to.

Lemmy already has had issues with child abuse materials because of federation and poor moderation tools. An image will get posted on one instance, then it automatically gets copied to other instances, and even if the original instances delete the image that doesn't automatically delete it off other instances. Admins have to manually contact other admins, who then each have go in and painstakingly delete it manually, and that's if all those different admins see and respond to the message. This is a problem that has been growing as lemmy gets bigger and more popular. And this is just with instance hosts - with peertube, you have individuals seeding/contributing to the hosting.

So it seems to me that peertube as it is involves a degree of moral and legal (since people can and have been deemed legally responsible for seeding torrents before) risk that is just not worth it a compared to the privacy-invading but blessedly safe option of youtube.

And even if individuals decided that risk was fine, advertisers absolutely won't, which makes the platform a no-go for channels that depend on ads rather than patreon or merch for their livelihoods.

I'll be happy if there's a reliable way around this problem that doesn't completely break the mechanism whereby peertube is supposed to work, but as of now I can't see one.

@ReverseModule

As someone who really enjoys PeerTube, I also feel like the technical barriers to it being as popular as other platforms are a bit tougher to overcome.

I would love for it to be more popular. I also know it's really hard to convince content creators and live streamers to embrace it.

I love PeerTube. I have been trying to help the projects however I can. I also know that the economics of moving to PeerTube is quite different. Very few people make money microblogging (Twitter). Very few people make money posting to Reddit.

Streaming on Twitch or YouTube, or making content for YouTube can and for many people does bring in money, though. Creating an ecosystem where viewers are willing to pay, while increasing viewer counts of content so that sponsorships can be more common, all while trying to slowly convince people that we should be supporting things financially that up to now has been "free(not really, but experientially it 'feels' free)" is a lot of work.

I plan on supporting PeerTube as much as I can in the future. I want it to grow. Maybe someday, it will get there. I can hope.