Scaled sorting seems awesome so far

maegul@lemmy.ml to Lemmy@lemmy.ml – 51 points –

Only seen it the past hour or so but I’ve already set it as my default. It seems to work exactly as I’d hoped where smaller but no less interesting communities get their posts higher in my feed.

This could be a huge change and I think lemmy would benefit from those of us caring about the idea being vocal about it and assessing its efficacy.

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It's having an impact like unions; even people using the other sorts are benefiting from the existence of scaled sort. It fulfils the role way better than Sort by New because that just gives you a bunch of blog spam or stuff in languages you probably don't even speak.

So excited for this to roll out, I'm sure it'll need further tweaks as we go but it's encouraging to hear positive reports from the start!

It’s one of those things that should get better the more people use. The more people see stuff from the smaller communities they’re interested in, the more votes and activity those posts will see and the higher they will get scored for both the scaled sort and the others too.

What's this available on? I'm not seeing it on Jerboa.

Only on lemmy.ml for now, because it’s running a pre-release of version 0.19.

Thanks for the info. I'll be looking forward to potential further adoption in the future

I've been eagerly anticipating this since its announcement.

When I turned it on it was mostly showing posts with around 2-7 upvotes. This seems like a bug to me because most posts have more upvotes than that.

Well that’s kinda the point. Those posts probably come from communities with much fewer users/subscribers. There’s probably a long tail of small communities which would produce many posts with few upvotes that score well once scaled.

Hopefully you’re using it on the “subscribed” section. Otherwise you’ll just see posts from all the small communities many of which you’re likely not interested in.

Beyond that there’s a possibility that the scaling itself could do with some tweaking. In the end though, you don’t have to use scaled exclusively, it’s just another tool for browsing along with the other sorts.

It's very possible this will change once this rolls out more broadly simply because the overall activity on smaller communities will increase substantially. I suspect a lot of people will make it a habit to check this sort but the overall size of these communities will probably not see a huge increase.

do you think it is showing too many posts with only 1 upvote? Kinda feels like it in here.

But I've only used it without an account, maybe for te subscribed section this is more interesting.

Yea I wouldn’t want to use it outside of the subscribed section, as generally the only small communities I’m interested in are the ones I’ve sought out.

That being said, it wouldn’t surprise me if the scoring for “Scaled” maybe mishandles posts at the edge of “small” where a post has one upvote. As each post starts with a single upvote, they’re not necessarily particularly useful?

yeah, when a post has 1 upvote on a community with 3 users the algorithm will prioritize it over 1 upvote with 40000 users.

I don't know, I think this can be refined if the user is not on the subscribed section.

Well it has to show new posts and give them a chance to be voted on, so maybe it's fine?